Who runs my kind of hound?

houndsound · Post by **houndsound** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:49 pm

Yeah, I know......like I said this probablly wasn't the right thread to put this on. By the way, what format puts 6-7 dogs in a cast? Just curious, I'm a bit' new to all this myself. Sorry if I offended you.

dk

Adam M. O'Donnell · Post by **Adam M. O'Donnell** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:51 pm

Take a serious look at the Bramlett bred dogs! I think you'll find what you are looking for in most of them!

WELLS WOODS · Post by **WELLS WOODS** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:37 pm

I have been fortunate to judge and see many great hounds from several bloodlines; The good ones are the ones I remember the most, know more about and they run very much alike. They have good hunt, clean mouth, good speed w/ line control, close check work, stamina and nose. I have also seen many bad ones; mouthy, weak hunt, slow even when scent is high or fast with no control, real wide in the check with no pattern to thier checkwork, ghosttrailers, backtrackers, lack of desire and nose. Unfortunately, it is hard to find out the bloodlines of the bad ones because they aren't in the trial results, but I'd say they have some of the same blood as the good ones. Like, I said, there are good and bad in all bloodlines.

Most judges I've judged with like the same type of dog that I do because they are rabbit hunters too. Hunters aren't going to keep a hound that keeps disrupting the running by being faulty and good judges are the same way. They are not just looking for the front end dog; they are looking for the dogs that are concentrating on the track and finding the tough losses created by faulty packmates or difficult running conditions. The front dog better have control because he's going to look bad if he overruns and another dog turns it or finds the check several yards behind him. The ones that can control the front with accuracy and have the brains and nose to go with thier desire and speed will finish faster in the Mid-West than most hounds, but these type of hounds are few and far between. Most Mid-West FC's are seasoned veterans that are very consistent and just good solid line runners that use thier experience and checkwork to outscore thier packmates.

steve · Post by **steve** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:59 pm

WELLS WOODS · Post by **WELLS WOODS** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:44 am

Sorry if I upset you steve. I don't think the only good hunting beagles in the world are the ones entered in field trials either. I was just telling the guy the bloodlines of some of the best hunting beagles I've seen at the field trials in the last few years in my opinion.

WELLS WOODS · Post by **WELLS WOODS** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 2:42 am

I forgot to mention IFC Round Pond Mr. T. A few years ago I judged FC Anderson's T Shadow (by Mr.T). It was close between him and another dog until the rabbit crossed an open pasture field with dirt trails. He slowed down and walked the track across the field probably 150 yards while the other hounds had trouble making any progress on the track. He was impressive that day.

Midwest Hunter11 · Post by **Midwest Hunter11** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:02 pm

Still interested in hearing from more people.

LaMarr Rhoades · Post by **LaMarr Rhoades** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:22 pm

I think if you looked enough,you could find what your looking for in any of the bloodlines mentioned.Wells Wood made a good point by stateing pretty much the same thing.I have owned dogs out of all the lines mentioned and have had good and bad ones from all of them.I like a dog that can go as fast as possible but still be able to make the turns without losing the track.I prefer dogs that have Spicers Blue Back up front in there pedigree and have had alot of them that could run like that,but believe me there are some that cant,I just find that most of the time they can.I just chose a line that turns out the way I want them to the majority of the time,because no line produces a good dog 100 percent of the time.So basically I just picked the line that produced what I like most often.

Hatfield · Post by **Hatfield** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:09 am

I thought that type of hound was what Progressive pack was designed for. A true line running hound with a litte foot. Looks to me like there is a balance between how much a hound can stay straddle the line and how fast they can move. We have to decide what balance suits us best as individuals. I have filled up my ol truck more than once on a trip after that balance. If I were to start over tomarrow. I would only buy puppys out of proven crosses or a producing biitch and cross her to something I wanted in a Sire.
I wouldn't be expecting much for years except dog food bills.

I wish you well, Robert Hatfield

wvduece · Post by **wvduece** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:08 pm

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS MEAN BY PUTTING PRESSURE ON A YOUNG HOUND? I RUN WITH ABOUT 8 OR 10 DIFFERENT GUYS WITH BLOOD LINES FROM ALL OF ABOUT EVERYTHING THATS OUT THERE we usually start our pups with running hounds sometimes with anywhere from 8 to 12 hounds then on ocassuion,right now im trying to get 2- 7 mo. hounds started didnt get to run them any in the summer for specific reasons they both opened on track a couple nites ago but that dont make them a started pup they only recognized a track they liked they run it a lil ways then lost interest i belive ya got to let a pup be a PUP i put them where thetres lots of rabbits n plenty of other hounds running they will start when their ready not always on my time either n the first pup that starts isnt always the better hound i wouldnt consider them started till they will stay with track n at least get it almost circkled lol but ive also started dogs n seen my running friends get young pups started with no problems if your hound has a big fault once my hoyund starts i i keep taking her out dont necessialry mean my hound will pick the habit up ive started lots of pups n they get started in a pack sooooooooooo HOW CAN YA PUT TOOO MUCH PRESSURE ON A DOG EVEN TRIALING I JUST CANT SEE IT WHEN I TRIAL THWERES ONLY 4 DOGS TO A CAAST I DONT BELIVE IT CAN BE DOPNE JUST MY THOUGHTS N EXPERINCES I DO SOLO BUT VERY LITTLE I CANT STAND TO SOLO NOT ENOUGH ACTION WHEN I RUN MY OLDER HOUNDS THEY RUN WITH 10 or more i dont see where any pressure is put on them enuf diodnt mean to say this much jb

wvduece · Post by **wvduece** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:26 pm

I GOT A BLACK N TAN MALE WVDUECE IS HIS NAME HE CAN JUMP HIS OWN RABBIT CIRCLE HIS OWN AND MOST TIMES HE GETS THE CHECK I WAS RUNNING HIM N 3 OTHER DOGS ONE DOG WAS DUECES BROTHER THE RABBIT COMES OUT IN DIRT ROAD RUNS DOWN THE ROAD FOR 50 TO 75 YARDS THE BRO N 2 OF MY FEMALES TRY TO WORK THE TRACK DOWN DIRT ROAD WV DUECE HITS THE DIRT ROAD WORKS TRACK A LIL THEN HITS THE BRUSH N MAKES A BIG CIRCLE MOST OF THE TIME HE PICS RABBIT UP WAY IN FRIONT OF OTHER DOGS THATS STILL IN THE ROAD TRACKING N DUECE HAS TRACK N GONE ABOUT 75 YARDS IN FRONT OF OTHER HOUNDS NOW IF PACK IS RUNNING HE WILL RUN WHEREVER IN FRONT MIDDLE OR BACK BUT WHEN LOSS OCCURS HE DONT MESS AROUND HE FINDS THE CHECK FASST I GOT NO PROBLEM WITH HIM SWINGING HE KEEPS THE RACE GOING JB