need help with shy pup

pabunniehunter · Post by **pabunniehunter** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:36 pm

any ideas on a beagle pup. come when called just cant catch her to put her back in the truck. just like she dont want me to pet her. open for any ideas thanks

AlabamaSwamper · Post by **AlabamaSwamper** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:55 pm

If you have tried everything else, get you an ecollar and let her have it. Works for me sometimes.

WOrk with her in the yard, with a cord and the collar if you have one.

Emery · Post by **Emery** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:20 pm

Yard work, yard work, yard work, & yard work. Maybe try the weed-eater cord attached to the collar if it will let you get within 5-10 feet. Above all, don't scold the pup once you do catch it or it will associate the negative response with being caught and then you will never catch it.

Emery

C & T Kennels · Post by **C & T Kennels** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:23 am

I have a female who is shy but hunts great and I was'nt about to give up on her .she was hard to catch even in the kennel .I started working with her on lead and also letting her in the house and spending time with her .
also rewarding her with treats when she came to me and praising her .
she has very timid when I got her but now she is coming around .
you should try the long rope.
taking her out in the yard on a long rope calling to her and gently pull on lead when she comes to you praise her n reward her .keep working with her and soon she will be coming to you .

TC · Post by TC » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:46 am

I personnaly don't think that the shock collar is gonna cure this problem you are having. All you will do is get a pup that is completely in fear of you. This pup needs socialization. Positive reenforcment. Treats and reward for coming to you. Try giving this pup little pieces of chicken or hot dog when she comes to you praise her for doing what you want. Like the above poster said bring her in the house get her used to human contact. If you are a single fella take her to town with ya. Beagle pups are a definate Chick magnet... What a better way to meet your future....

Good luck with the pup.

blunder · Post by **blunder** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 8:39 am

Recall can be difficult to teach any dog, esp a Beagle. Ever hear the phrase "never chase a Beagle".
To start, recall training needs to be in a distraction free enviroment (fenced yard). Attach a light rope to the dog (ski rope) and just reel it in when the recall command is give, be sure to finish the recall and pick the dog up and carry it around for a couple of min. As the dog begins to get the idea of what recall is all about then an e-collar can be added to the mix, but this must be done properly (chaining) or it will be a giant step backwords. Evan Grahm in his book "Smart Works for Retrievers" does an excelent job of discribing how to CC a dog to recall. (first step to collar conditioning the dog)
After the recall is solid in the yard then distractions should be added in a controled maner. It should be noted that any hunting dog is basically worthless without a solid recall, so this is a portion of a training program that needs special attention and care.

tom

Gbeagle · Post by **Gbeagle** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:54 pm

" Patience is a virtue " and this is what you will need . You need to start by making her into your best buddy. Thats means going for rides in the truck her up front with you ,letting her in the house puttting your hands on her as much as possible so she will understand that you touching her is a good thing . Get her on a check cord call her in if she don't come drag her in but make sure you praise her up good ,give her a treat and make it a good experience . I only use my collars when I know they are just flat out defying me .

pabunniehunter · Post by **pabunniehunter** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:46 pm

thanks guys i hope everything works out she a good runner will do my best

Honey Pot Hounds · Post by **Honey Pot Hounds** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:15 am

Welcome to the list Blunder!!

channellkat · Post by **channellkat** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:31 am

I know where you are coming from. Our inside Beagle, not my hunting ones, decided one day he was the master and took off right for the road. He has never done this. He has always been the dog that obeys everything and will kill himself to please. But no this day. And of course it Was Sunday right before Church. I let him out side to go to the bathroom and off he went right for the road. after playing chase in the road with him for about 5 min in my dress cloths and socks. Stopping traffic with my daughter crying like she there was no tomorrow I finally caught him. For the next two weeks he never went outside with out the 50' check cord. So far he has never done that again.

~Fred

tonys · Post by **tonys** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:37 am

how old is he or she i had a dog that would come to me in back yard . i would beep him with e collar and so on in the yard no problem. take him hunting then see what happens would run away he was smart and knew the game he must understand the e collar . i recieved this dog because his owner gave up on him. i broke the dog with the e collar i would shock him he would run farther trust me i increased the intesity it got to the point where i held it down and guess what after enough pressure he came in from that day on he handeled great ended up selling him back to his owner i dont know about youre dog but this one i had would push you as far as he could i worked with him on a rope and e collar in fenced yard gradually opening his area up he knew when he could free range.

Post by **Bev** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:10 am

Sounds like these guys have the recall end covered, but I've got a tip for the socialization part. There's a method you can use that's a little different approach than "weaning into" being handled. It's called "flooding", and basically it's, well, flooding is the best word for it.

An example would be to go to an area where there are a lot of people (especially children) who will walk past you - say a Walmart or grocery store, park your lawn chair, bring the book titled "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People", and have the pup leashed next to you. Every child or animal lover that walks by will want to pet the pup - and of course you're gonna say "go ahead!" You can even have fun with it and stick a little sign there that says "Free puppy petting". That dog will be handled more in 2 hours than you would ever realize, (and you would be able to tell me what Chapter 2 of the book is about, lol).

Anyway, the idea is to expose the pup to a "flood" of human touch until he's pretty much desensitized to it, (in the aspect that human touch = negative outcome). We used to start packing our pups to field trials when they were old enough to travel well so they would get used to the tie-out, the foot traffic, other dogs, the whole routine. Upside is, the kids at the trials would wear the pups out with love.

Briarhoppers · Post by **Briarhoppers** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:45 am

Along the lines of what Bev is saying, from ages 8 - 12 weeks I try to expose my pups to as many different people as possible. I have taken them to church picnics during this time, block parties, the park, etc. The more they are handled, petted and around different people the more likely they are to be outgoing, effectionate and easily handled.

Especially at the ages of 8 - 12 weeks when they have just been removed from their mother and littermates are developing an opinion and mindset of their environment and how to respond to people.

If you run into a mean dog that is people shy (not just talking about beagles) you can almost bet they were somehow mistreated or neglected at the 8 - 12 week period.

-Pete

blunder · Post by **blunder** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:00 am

Honey Pot Hounds wrote: Welcome to the list Blunder!!

Hi Cindy and ty for the welcome.
Looked at your web site and had to chuckle,
Leah Bertagnolli lives close by and is a good friend,
and I have probably cleaned up after "Parker" as often as anyone

We also just did a breeding to this guy, his full brother (they are 9 wks old)
Looks like we share a lot of the same bloodlines
Stanley

tom

Honey Pot Hounds · Post by **Honey Pot Hounds** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:04 am

Hi Tom,
Leah is my best beagle bud! I know of Stanley well!! Very well! Nice dog, excellent mover. Best of luck with your pups!!