Top producing % studs

[kybluetickbeagler1]

It doesn't matter how many times you breed a dog or don't breed a dog if the pups never get a chance. I have sold dogs that were junk and people run their guts out and they make something. If the people with the dogs don't run their guts out and spend the cash taking them from trial to trial then you don't know what they can do. If I bred my lab 20 times and the pups were in the right hands and advertised right I bet I would have a stud dog! Not taking anything away from anyone but I'm sure you see my point.

[Casey Harner]

Oh I didn't know that sorry

I'm just stating what was told to me nothing towards you Trent, just not sure how that makes any STUD a TOP PRODUCER if its only 1 format!!

No hating here just getting OPINIONS and facts .Only interested in AKC also, thanks .Also fellas IFC ROUND POND MR. T 68 LITTERS 20 FC

John I figured you would only care about AKC since that's all you run right??

[johns03272008]

Casey just because that's all I run doesn't mean that a dog is not a producer because he doesn't have many FC in AKC, I bet you could count on both hands how many guys that run strictly AKC have bred to Reggie!! I just don't happen to like the UKC HB rules and how many ways there are to get screwed and I don't really like little pack that much because they don't promote a dog that's a lock on dog that bobbles and picks it right back up!! Just my opinion I will still run a few other trials that are close to home but won't travel to far for them any more!!

[mdbeagler]

Casey just because that's all I run doesn't mean that a dog is not a producer because he doesn't have many FC in AKC, I bet you could count on both hands how many guys that run strictly AKC have bred to Reggie!! I just don't happen to like the UKC HB rules and how many ways there are to get screwed and I don't really like little pack that much because they don't promote a dog that's a lock on dog that bobbles and picks it right back up!! Just my opinion I will still run a few other trials that are close to home but won't travel to far for them any more!!

So on one hand you are saying how great a reproducer Reggie is an anyone that says something negative about him or his reproducing power is a hater, yet on the other hand you discredit those very registries that are supposed to make him a great reproducer?
If a dog isn't someones style of dog or they disagree with the reproducing power of that dog or line of hounds doesn't mean they are a "Hater" just have a difference of opinion.
For those that say a lot of dogs just go to gun hunters and are never trialed.
It doesn't matter if the dog is trialed, AKC, UKC, ARHA or just gun hunted a rabbit dog is a rabbit dog period!!!
If a dog is bred to a lot and doesn't produce a good percentage of Great dogs no matter if they are hunted or trialed; they aren't a great reproducer,know matter what stud it is or dam for that matter.
Reggie himself successfully competed In ARHA as well as AKC.
I believe Reggie in particular is a Great LP reproducer, of that style of dog.
He seems to produce dogs that can compete successfully under that format, I am sure there are some crosses to him that compete successfully in AKC as well just not in large numbers as in ARHA.
I don't believe ARHA or UKC champions hold as much credibility as an AKC field champion, not to say there aren't great dogs in both registries. I just think there are way to many ways of getting screwed in them which I have seen first hand.
Which is why when someone considers buying or breeding to a stud they "USUALLY" look more for AKC field champions.
I have seen great champions in all 3 registries and I have seen several in all 3 registries that I wouldn't own.
I know of some dogs that successfully competed in all 3 registries, that usually takes a real true rabbit dog.
Harder to be a paper champion in 3 different formats.

[eddywilliams]

mdbeagler I agree with you I am bashed for asking for AKC only and not recognizing ARHA or UKC but he contradicts himself by saying he doesnt like UKC because of the ways you can get screwed and ARHA by the way they dont promote a lock on rabbit dog .I dont even want to make this chart now some people always hating .

[eddywilliams]

I found Turbo for the fella wanting to know he sired 50 litters 12 fc's,I couldnt get Shooter does any one have it he should have several and also how about Lumberjack ,Jack of All Trades ,Heli propp ,Wookie ......

[Casey Harner]

It's smart of you to run Blackie down in Oakland City at these LP trials, to let others see him and his skill set. I read where a pup out of him won, congrats. I am guessing you wanted to broaden his breedings in other formats??

[johns03272008]

It's smart of you to run Blackie down in Oakland City at these LP trials, to let others see him and his skill set. I read where a pup out of him won, congrats. I am guessing you wanted to broaden his breedings in other formats??

Lol ran 1 time down there to finish, anyone can come watch Blackie run I ain't scared to run him with any dog out there!! Is he as fast as he was when he was 3 or 4 no but he still gets it done and nothing to hide on the dog, would I like others to breed to him sure why wouldn't I? I run the format I like and chose not to run the ones I don't, just by saying I don't like a certain rule has nothing to do with if the dog is a producer or not. Twist words around or read it how you want!! The simple fact is eddie your putting a list together to satisfy your little chip on your shoulder or to make people want to breed to a specific line because 25 years ago a dog produced well!! "Clap clap" congrats on that!! Casey I don't know if your being serious or just being sarcastic but you can bring anything you got and run with him anytime you would like.

[schwanie]

hlane I was viewing a thread just brought up by Chapko on there it stated Reggie had 6 Fc.s on another thread it had Reggie with upwards of 200 litters ,wow!(I dont know if that is accurate could be higher they said) Shaker is at the top with 50 litters and 30 FC.S.I havent heard about Round Pond Mr. T .

Eddie, you say wow about Reggie. Don't won't to get in a pissing contest but I remember you promoting BIG Tuna and some others you had at stud on General Service's talking about how they can run a rabbit and so much hunt and reproducing ability. So how many times has Big Tuna and the others you had advertised been bred and A.K.C. field champs by them ? I have talked to Chip about a Kick Azz pup because I'm not a flavor of the month guy, but i like good dog's and I'm sure Kick Azz is just that. I guess you can say yea I get pissed because we know you are not a Turbo fan by your post in the past, but day in and day out it seems they still keep winning. Just done with hearing so much bullshit. And by the way I got a FC. Chimney Rocks KY. Lucky male I will drop down with anything around and that's not bullshit. He just might Kick some AZZ MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET SOME

[johns03272008]

hlane I was viewing a thread just brought up by Chapko on there it stated Reggie had 6 Fc.s on another thread it had Reggie with upwards of 200 litters ,wow!(I dont know if that is accurate could be higher they said) Shaker is at the top with 50 litters and 30 FC.S.I havent heard about Round Pond Mr. T .

Eddie, you say wow about Reggie. Don't won't to get in a pissing contest but I remember you promoting BIG Tuna and some others you had at stud on General Service's talking about how they can run a rabbit and so much hunt and reproducing ability. So how many times has Big Tuna and the others you had advertised been bred and A.K.C. field champs by them ? I guess you can say yea I get pissed because we know you are not a Turbo fan by your post in the past, but day in and day out it seems they still keep winning. And by the way I got a FC. Chimney Rocks KY. Lucky male I will drop down with anything around. He just might Kick some AZZ. MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET SOME

[BM Orchard]

I have a female out of IFC REGGIE!
I bred my NLPC FC OMBRÉ female to IFC KICKAZ!
I want to try them all.
Will there be great ones come from both? I HOPE
Will there be average ones come from both? PROBABLY
My son likes blueticks so we went IFC REGGIE!
I like tri's so I went BRANKO X KICKAZ!
Rocket science I know
So glad Blake & I like different things but at the end of the day we support each other. We are in it together.

[eddywilliams]

Schwanie I did FINISH MY CHART thanks for your support.

[johns03272008]

I believe there was another question on here that maybe you can add to your chart about Big Tuna and the others that where at stud? I am curious myself of the numbers and also would love to see this chart!!!!

[brad stewart]

It would be nice to see the results

[likeemfast]

Its tough to compete with a STUD that has 2250 pups on the ground and 6 FC's, thats a lot to expect out of any hound to keep up with percentages like that. Thats like 1 for every 375 pups produced, is there any other hound on this board that can claim percentages like that???? I would doubt it,