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should i be concerned?

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have two gyps that are litter mates,two year old. pretty good solid gun dogs. issue im having is that when i step a rabbit up or one shoots out a short piece from where their hunting , i get them on the rabbit and 50 percent of time they will run it a short distance the way it came out instead of the way the rabbit went. i either holler and straighten them out our they will turn around and start running the right way on their own. either way it gets aggravtating when they could already be on the track running the rabbit. have never seen them truely backtrack, but dont want this to lead to that thanks

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I am sure most everyone has seen dogs at some point when a track is Hot go the wrong way on it.

But 50%! My two cents is get two more pups. They lack Brains! They could not eat my feed!
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If they have a lot of ground time and they are still doing this consistently then I believe its time for them to go down the road!! If they have not had a lot of exposure and ground time and you raised them since pups well then that's another part of the story!! I know if I got a 2 year old dog doing that then it ain't gonna be eatting here any more!!
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Wouldn't bother me....to me don't count when tally ho-ed on a track they just fired up and excited
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how far is a "short distance" before they get it right?
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I think they've been together too much and compete for the track.
They are taking a whiff of scent and going with it.

To stop the non-sense i'd try running each one with a more experienced dog.
But don't run both of them together with the older dog.
Try some solo time, maybe one female is worse than the other?

Also if possible...kennel them separately so they can't touch each other.
Sometimes the faulty dog can also be the dominant one.
This way the less dominant can hopefully blossom into a better dog.

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BG BEAGLER wrote:Wouldn't bother me....to me don't count when tally ho-ed on a track they just fired up and excited
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BG BEAGLER wrote:Wouldn't bother me....to me don't count when tally ho-ed on a track they just fired up and excited
I agree with that, but at the same time he didn't mention if he tally ho-ed them, if you Talley ho-ed them then I am ok with that because just like Matt said they are geeked, but if they are just finding the rabbit scent on their own after its jumped out and they going backwards I would want to know how far they are going back wards also are they running it both ways or just till they figure out the direction it went?? A lot of stuff not known yet. It my first comment is still the same if they found it on their own!!
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he said he gets them on it so you know they are amped up
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thanks for responses guys, and to clarify, if i kick one up or if one shoots out from where their hunting, but the dogs dont know it, i will hey ya yay ya ya ya here it is, thats what i say and the dogs come in and like i said half time will run it the way it came out, usually for just maybe 5 yards or so before getting straightened out. their very good once on it just bothers me that they do that, but could be amped up like you all said.

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5 yards dont seem like much on a tally ho. they got to move it a bit to figure out the right way because they didnt see the rabbit go.
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I look at it this way, have you ever come out of your house and smell smoke. do you look around to see where its at or do you look directly at it and know where it came from automatically? I know if i call a hound to a track they need to figure out where it went. Now if they cant then it might be time to look for a new hound.

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Seems normal to me.
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Straddle the track and call and point it out directly in front of you.

If you jumped the rabbit, there should be no back track unless you have walked down the track from where it came from. Stand over the bed where it came from and when they hit it there is only one way to go, forward.

More importantly is do they do this in a check? if so, get rid of them.

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I gun hunt 12 dogs or a lot of times even more. As many rabbits as I jump or see cross and do not feel like the dogs have ran them we call the dogs all the time and put them on a track. Maybe once or twice a year I have seen my dogs do it. That is a long ways from 50%. But what do I no????????????? Seems to be pretty easy nothing LOL
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