brace question

[deerhost]

I ment traditional gun dog brace. Gun runner the most important thing is that you have to try to get to trials that run your type dog. I like to think it is not so much of a speed thing as it is accuracy. You can run a faster dog in a slower trial format but it better be clean. As they stand out more in a pack. I've been at some of the more conservative clubs and seen a pretty quick dog win the trial running because it was clean. If your faster but making mistakes your asking to be picked up at those trial. If you get better beagling look at the trial results in areas of the north east. When you see dogs listed you will also see the sire and dam listed. When you see dogs placing with the same bloodlines your running then thats the area you should be going too.

[fasttrackpa]

Come to Lebanon Co. Beagle club in SE PA and check out the Northeast Beagle Gundog Federation Championships. The trial is May 31, June 1 and 2...

I promise you will see some rabbit dogs.

[Competent]

This is a simple question not lookung to argue the format of the video on this post......Do u guys ever Get the mark line?? How do u score dogs if ya don't see the game?? Running behind the dogs makes me.believe u guys don't no where the game went ur trusting the hounds?? The seminars I took insisted that u must have a mark line to put any positive or negative score on a hound!! Jmho!!

Harry Snow Jr.

[Lee Cockman]

Come to NC I promise you will see the same as you did there. It's a shame to. JMHO

[gun runner]

I guess I should have look into more.( jmo ) I thought a rabbit dog only ran rabbit's and did not pop off here and there without producing the game. I would have shoot 3 or 4 dogs before I ever started hunting if they were mine.

[Lee Cockman]

You sure you want in NC. Sure sounds like it

[Competent]

Well no awnsers to my questions eh..... gess its hard ta give a awnser when der isn't a awnser to how u guys are judging hounds!! I no der was six or seven ppl in the video that were chasing the hounds through the cat tails across feilds com on men what's ur explanations! I don't care what format u want ta run chasing the pack and not seeing the mark line is ridiculous and iam sur u guys aren't getting the best hound!! When u guys hunt is that how ya kill da rabbit from behind the dogs????

Harry Snow Jr.

[beaglerVT]

Im sorry, not trying to start any trouble but i cant help but get angry when seeing those videos. WHY are you CHASING the DOGS!??!

I have only been to 5 trials (all large pack), and i know how some say those arent real hunting scenarios with 30 hounds running at once but all 5 of those trials the judges saw the rabbit, scored that marked line. Never do the judges chase hounds. They wait where they see the rabbit go through until the pack comes in on it.

I know this isnt a debate on which format is best but this brace thing really puzzles me.

[Competent]

Maybe they will answer u beaglerVt but I doubt it they can't have a awnser ta that performance they showed us on that video!! Com on men don't be shy we are waiting for awnsers!!!

Harry Snow Jr.

[Competent]

OK well I don't no.any of u guys on that video but any of u are more den welcome to answer my questions!! I do no the name of the fellow behind the camera so maybe just maybe Mark Carder will step up.and awnser my question!! Mark u have comments on any other post so cld u give me ur bright comment on this one!!! Y and how do u guys think its OK to chase hounds and score a hound wid out seeing the mark line??? I will not let this go as iam passionate about this sport and I don't care what format cause NO format do u score dogs wid out.seeing the mark line!!! In my opinion u guys are not helping this sport in any means by how u showed us how u guys judge a trial!!! I gess I only can call it INCOMPETENT JUDGES/JUDGING!!!!

Harry Snow Jr.

[rabbitearl]

Thanks Mark for the video.Good looking dogs.Looks like a Good place to judge a dog too and the judges were doing good too.Once again thanks for the video.One of these days I m going up there.Thanks.

[Competent]

Rabbitearl how many trials have u attended? Are u a judge?? Have u ever took a judges seminar? U don't see a problem with chasing hounds and scoring hounds wid out seeing the mark line??? I can't believe u can post compliments if u answered yes ta my above questions! The only ting gud bout that video is how smooth Mark is wid a video camera!!!

Harry Snow Jr

[beaglerVT]

Someone please just give an answer. Its not that we want an argument but akc field trial judge seminars teach to only score a marked line buy there are no marked lines in that video

[upstatenybeagler]

i dont normally get in on these questions but ive been apprenticing under some of the best judges around my area and not once have we scored a marked line without seeing the rabbit with our own eyes. we never trust the hounds, we only trust what we see with our own eyes. ive seen many dogs run "ghost rabbits" and they always get caught. How do you catch them when you run behind them and not see the rabbit go through?

[fasttrackpa]

I didn't see the whole video but as open as the ground is, I would suspect you can see a marked line from a good distance. If you can keep up to the hounds like that, I bet the rabbit isn't really moving that fast/far ahead of the hounds and you may be able to get a marked line from behind...I am lucky if I can get a line when I try to video my hounds and they are not that fast.