ALL TIME BEST SNOW HOUNDS -plz input

[Jakeboy]

Well put Norwester that about sums it up.

[littlewoody]

I don't doubt a northern bred and hunted hound would fall apart in southern heat & humidity.......but that has nothing to do with nose power.
Could the dog adapt and adjust to said conditions?........Perhaps, but at the extreme end of the spectrum I don't believe the dog will ever be as good as one born and bred for such an environment.

Like wise, the vast majority of hounds bred down south will not have to nose power to run at the extreme end of the spectrum of northern winters.
Now before everyone starts coming unglued at the seams by such a statement, I'll also add that the vast majority of northern bred hounds don't have the nose power to do it either

Best advice when tough winter conditions roll up is to stay inside and wait for better weather. Don't worry, you can still go online and shovel all the b.s. you can muster and no one will be the wiser (unless of course someone rolls up wanting to go hunting)

Funny but true.

[overpass]

Overpass rosie, sire was THE ELMS JIGS MAGGIES MATE . mother was out of campcreek fireline jack, a great snow dog himself. she could run a hare all day on cold deep snow.

[fulcount]

NLPFC Woodstock Granppy and FC Woodstock Black Cher were both very good
deep snow hounds and could run on the ice and crust
Their offspring are no slouches either

[Jwagner]

This is always a topic that, makes me laugh. Because people alway list off tons of dogs with these great snow noses. But you go to a place like the hunted hare or anyone that run in the nasty weather and ask them what is the hardest thing to obtain is a big nose, no excuse rabbit dog. I was blessed to have a old man take me to the northern parts of michigan as a boy and teen, to run many weekends of the winter. These dogs are far more few and far between as this list would make someone believe. Everyone has a different prospective on nose power. But a dog that doesn't cold trail or give a few extra barks when it's 10 degrees and above more then likely can't, consistantly move a rabbit when it is well in the negatives and a foot or more of month old snow that is all tracked up. I have yet to see one. I have seen many that could run in snow effortless with out extra mouth when the temps are in the teens and 20's. But put the same dogs in the negative and they were definitely not the same dog. some not even able to run at all. really running in 20 degrees on snow doesn't mean you have a snow hound. A perfect example of what people think nose power is, I went and watched an ARHA progressive pack trial here in Michigan last spring. After about a three mins break down a young judge called the track gone. When we were back at the club house, I asked him why he called it a dead track. He told me after 3 min or so the rabbit scent disappears. That just blew my mind. It was 40 degrees and wet with a steady breeze. I do like the muskie lake Eli stuff for nose power. my buddy has grand pup to Eli with a huge nose and I have a two great grand pups to eli with exceptional nose power.

[fulcount]

Jwagner
it is tough to get the type nose power we talk about
but some of us have been fortunate enough to have owned them
Got to remember this internet thing reaches far and wide
its not to say no matter how big a nose the dog has it WILL have trouble on given days
Cold trailer or not if you have spent enough time in the woods you certainly have seen times when the cold trailer come up empty because it cold trails it dont mean it has a better nose than one that doesnt this is an age old argument
I agree that a 3minute check is not a dead line by any means that judge was a neophyte
[Not a bad word ] means inexperienced

[Jwagner]

I don't mean to say that cold trailing is the determining factor on a dogs nose ability and I agree there are even days, dogs with the huge noses struggle for some reason or another. But I personally have not seen a dog that doesn't bark until there right up the rabbits rear end excel in the really cold nasty weather. I hope I don't confuse anyone when I say cold trailing. babbling all over the woods I can't stand. But when a dog can take a line like its hot and no other dog can bark for any length of distance be it 50 yards or a half circle. And produce the rabbit, that is what I mean when I say cold trailing.

[scott calkins]

i have seen some good hounds i had the pleasure of running a male nammed blackpoint bull from mike johnson. i took this little hounnd to the up in bad conditions . to the arha world hunt in hot weather . and this dog had never seen a cottontail till i got himm and no matter what he always could circle mr rabbit or hare. now to me that is a rabbit dog. i allso seen the rambo dog spoke about and he was the same. one other hound that stands out was dennis pungs bitch . dewyses pacer mandy . seen her run a circle on a hare we seen with bad snow below zero with four other good hounds behind not saying a word .my raidar dog was a pretty good snow dog as well . and a male out of that mandy dog of denises and syrus mcgee . named pete that i bought from rick and sold to my friend jamie golden he could run any where any time any bunny . all these dogs have one thing in common colby hill breeding in them all.

[Lone Pine Beagles]

I have noticed that alot of good snow hounds have FC Colby Hill Flora behind them.


LPB

[MaineDogs]

I got Alot of Buck Shot Mr bill up close in my kennel and can manage to shoot hare as i please, weather doesn't seem to bother them to much, but all dogs look better some days than others.

[Haire-Bear]

FC Sabattus Mtn.Otis
FC Dreahook Sabattus-- out of Otis son and sister to otis
FC Dreahook Tootsie-out of otis
Haire-Bear's Trixie- out of son of Walpole Bruiser and Greenbriar Birchaven merlin
Dreahook Brown Sugar- out of otis
NLPC/FC Nemasket's Rabbit Lane- out of otis

Gunned alllot over each of these hounds. WE dont pick our weekends to go just go and make the best out of it and sum are better than others. This line suites me, not the fastest but will show you the hare.

[golden acres]

Scott That Pete dog was a dog that I could run in any condition minus 20 to 90. May never have another like him. I just bought AJ Cedar Swomp Milz from Rob Fuller and can not wait to run him on snow. I judged Andy Rambo dog when he got his first of many wins and it was about minus 10 wind and a foot of dry powder and the other dogs could not run and he was glued to it like it was 50 deg out and misting. Warren Cherys Bo dog I watched had the best snow nose I have ever seen and he also went back to Colby Hill I believe

[HatterasBob]

Well, I seldom hunt in the snow, because cottontails are underground. That doesn't mean I haven't had some very good hunts in snow, just not many. But to add my 2 cents, it would be NLPC FTC Haunted Hill Stinger. Terry McBride told me the last time I saw him, that she was the best hound he ever sold. She was one that you could base a kennel on, he said. The reason he sold her, she was catching and killing the hare in his pen. The press on her was she was UNBEATABLE on snow as she prove at the 2004 Canadian Nationals with 17" of fresh power. It's a shame she died young.