jump vs hunt

[mobeagle]

Had a big running walker female that was as good as any type of hound I've ever seen at jumping game. I'd send her in to a section the way I wanted her to go as a young dog and she'd go the other direction sometimes I'd get so frustrated and in the blink of an eye she'd jump. After a few times of that when she'd go the wrong way I just let her and she always produced. She was the most amazing jump dog I've ever seen. Watched dogs blow through a big block I knew there were coyotes in and I send her through it after dogs had already been in there and she'd go in and jump in no time. Dog never cold trail barked once in her life but on bad days she was the best thing we had to run a track with and she proved she had a suprerior nose to everything in our pack. When she barked the race was on. I get so sick of people thinking a dog cold trailing is a sign of a big nose. IMO its a sign of no brains. There's no need to boo hoo bark before the game is lifted. I'f I'd pass over a hot track on the road she'd strike from the box and we all knew it was good she didnt bark in the box for nothin. She had more heart and desire than any dog I've owned unfortunately she got out of her pen and was ran over a couple weeks before coyote season this year. Her pen had a top on it. Only pen I have with a top. Could never keep her in her pen she was so smart wich is alot of what made her what she was. All year our group has missed her. I can tell you having a TRUE jump dog isnt something you can just replace. I have some good hounds that will jump plenty of game but a true jump dog like she was would find you game on days where nothing else will. They'll make other dogs look stupid. They'll pee you off sometimes and then you'll realize they're smarter than you are.

[houndboy13]

so can every one agree that when that one true jump dog comes along,we should just sit back and enjoy what is taking place since it isnt an animal that you will see on a regular basis..dont know if i'll have to wait 1 year or 40 years for that dog but from all ive read and seen posted, i'll be sure that when that dog does show up to let it do what it does best and sit back and enjoy

[rhaley]

I have owned one dog, a grade female (Brandy), that I would consider a true jump dog. I have had dogs that would hunt hard and jump or start a lot of rabbits but would not consider them a true jump dog, just hard hunting dogs. Brandy would make it look effortless. She did just like some others have said. She would wind scent a lot of the time. I have watched her run up and down hedgerows with her nose in the air then stop on a dime and stick her head in a brush pile and jump a rabbit. She would not get in every brush pile or good looking spot, but if you saw her slow down and start hunting an area harder, you better get ready, cause one was coming out. Brandy would see and hear the vast majority of rabbits when she jumped them, resulting in a lot of sight chases. She wasn't looking for a track, she was looking for the rabbit itself and would put her nose right on the rabbit before she would open.

I have had others hunting with me ask me why she wasn't hunting when they saw her skirting the outside and not getting in everything. I would tell them she is hunting and don't worry about her and she would prove them wrong. She is also probably the smartest dog I have every owned. The one thing she did that I didn't like was she over competitive and had to be in the front, which would cause checks, but I could deal with that as she was that good at jumping rabbits. I owned her sister also, and she was a good hunting dog, but not a jump dog.

I wished I had bred her, but didn't have any males at the time or know anyone that had a good one. I still have her, but she is retired know. She hunted until she was 13 and will be 16 years old this summer, but her eye sight and hearing are poor. She is still in good health otherwise and lives her life in the yard now.

[eddywilliams]

Mobeagle you have hit the nail on the head I see dogs barking sometimes for a minute boo hoo boo hoo then one from the kennel would open out away from these babblers and have it swinging .In Ukc you lose the strike to these sometimes but these type will often times minus out or take enough minus they dont have a chance .To have a line or a dog that has a good nose and uses his mouth correctly is hard to find .I like it

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

I ask a ol man years ago "How come females hunt harder than males"? To which he responded if you had balls hanging off your azz would you get in then saw briars? Good answer. Guess overall my best have been the girls.

[pineridgebeagles]

IN my opinion truE jump dogs are born not made,you can solo, pack it doesnt matter they will jump rabbits.Solo time will help most beagles become better jump dogs and independence ,but you put a true jump dog down anywhere there is game and they will outjump most dogs on the ground 90 percent of the time.I have owned 3 in my life and have one now,he swings at the checks,is loose on the line,but I would give away everything else in my kennel to keep him.Big Time Bred.AL

[grosswdg]

I got a male in August of 1995 and this male had more desire to hunt .He was a hunting and jumping fool.When i first started to work him he was on a mission to kill and destroy.It took awhile to get him to hunt with me and learn what his name was and come when i told him.He had alot of tritronics.He was a little over 2 years old at the time.You could shock him in to you and went right on hunting like nothing happened and had the most unusual mouth on him.So i believe that genetics played a big roll in the way this male was.He had so much heart and desire .It was a big lost for me in 2005 when he died but he will always be remembered at YEADON BRANCH BEAGLES.

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

Don't stop now I have made my whole life breeding around him and very few have made the grade Wayne.Was he Kingwoods T-Rex.? i have listened only to stories from you and Rufus. he produced some nIce .offspring but bottom not jump power was what I got. the best true jumpdog i ever bred was Cody Sharps Tcb Star. The greatest to date. full littermate to Junie different litter. I sold her for 600 what a idiot I was. Somehow she ended up in Tim crowleys hands and he made some great crosses.Look at a new fc wfo blue angel on the bottom side, I. Watched her run this past weekend and turn the pack like she had blinkers, nice nice bitch.you would like her Wayne

[Shotgun John]

I wish all of my hounds had extreme jumping ability they dont , i have 1 real jump dog in my pack that finds rabbits that some miss it strange the others hunt past rabbits that she finds.

This is why most people claim they have few rabbits when just before the season comes in they know they seen plenty. Yotes must have killed them off. No!!! Rabbits are smarter than the dogs and the dogmen.

[gwyoung]

Rabbits must really be smart around here, they don't even leave tracks in the snow!

[grosswdg]

Yes Jimmy i didn't want to give any names but it was KINGWOOD'S T REX and he could jump a rabbit when some dogs couldn't.He had head down and searched the area good and he would tear up a brush pile.

[Shotgun John]

Rabbits must really be smart around here, they don't even leave tracks in the snow!

There must be some areas with no rabbits. I have had at least three people, each wanting to buy upwards of 150 redbacks to stock their farms in the North east. I don't raise that many and tried to discourage them of this notion. I don't think they listened but it's their land, I reckon they can do what they will.