I agree Bev,,, resolved,,, IN PRIVATE NOT WHERE THE WHOLE WORLD CAN READ IT!!!!!!!! You know, You people crack me up, the other day one of your own posted from Iraq. Just a young beagler, off in a hot desert wanting to touch home with you all.. Only Me, A Guest and an old Marine from The Great State of Alabama had the desency to talk to him and let him know somebody gives a darn about him!!!!! That and this thread proves to me, You are a bunch of IDIOTSSSSS...
Mr. Del Morgan,
My check is in the mail for my female pup, I hope you survive this mess!!!!
Hilltop, Outstanding post, case of beer for that one!!!!
Crew Chief
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Powder Springs Ga.
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I have just recently gotten my first beagle so I really have no business even replying but I am sure glad I have been reading this topic,it sure has helped me decide what registry NOT to look for when I purchase my next beagle.It doesn't appear to me to be something that will hurt Beagling but rather something that will help it grow.At least for the new comers anyway,this will let them know before hand what kind of folks run and own the registry in question instead of them having to wait until they spend their money and find they are disatisfied.It appears to me that Randy and the others were banned as an example to all other beaglers of what will happen if you want to stand up for what you believe.It saddens me to read this registries responce where one of the first things out of their mouths was a hidden threat for liable suits,That let's me know what kind of registry this is and I want no part of it and Better Beagling will be stronger for the input Randy has given to bring out in the open what kind of leadership one can expect from this registry.Thanks Randy for helping one new comer to understand a few things.
crewchf, The problem with handling it behind closed doors is that the truth sometimes get covered up. This is not the 1st time that beaglers have been told that they are going to be banned from ARHA just because they spoke up about something that they didn't like in the ARHA. I remember about a year ago someone posted something on the ARHA web site about something that they didn't like about the ARHA and the next thing he knows they are telling him he will be banned if he doesn't take back what he said.crewchf wrote:I agree Bev,,, resolved,,, IN PRIVATE NOT WHERE THE WHOLE WORLD CAN READ IT!!!!!!!!
I will have to say that anytime a company take the position that it is my way or the highway then that company is doomed to fail.
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big bullies
I don't trial but if the handling of this situation by the NKC does not bother you then you really need to step back and re-evaluate your own moral standing.
What's right is right and what is wrong needs to be rectified. The NKC can only bully you if you let them.
If these guys were trying to solve a problem and happened to step on a couple crooked toes in the process it seems the best solution would be to cut off the toes that are causing the problem.
What's right is right and what is wrong needs to be rectified. The NKC can only bully you if you let them.
If these guys were trying to solve a problem and happened to step on a couple crooked toes in the process it seems the best solution would be to cut off the toes that are causing the problem.
I'll say that ANY organization, be it a club or a business is only as good as it's top management. If top management condones or even allows the appearance of any impropriety then that tells me all I need to know about that organization.
Crew Chief you're way out in left field on this one and I'm sure most of us on here don't take to kindly to being called IDIOTS. The membership or participating public has NOTHING to do with the organizational integrity of any club they are mearly the backbone of it through which their blood, sweat and tears make money for the top brass. I see you have the check in the mail but why not send another to Enron, I'm quite sure they'd TAKE your money as well. Appears to be the same Management philosophy at the top, rake in the money and screw the backbone of the organization.
I stopped competition hunting several years ago for basically this same type of stuff but just bought a nice LP style dog and have a young one coming on but now I will take another look at the situation. To venture into this with eyes wide SHUT would most appropriately put someone into the ole saying catagory of "A fool and their money soon part" and then you could call me an IDIOT.
Crew Chief you're way out in left field on this one and I'm sure most of us on here don't take to kindly to being called IDIOTS. The membership or participating public has NOTHING to do with the organizational integrity of any club they are mearly the backbone of it through which their blood, sweat and tears make money for the top brass. I see you have the check in the mail but why not send another to Enron, I'm quite sure they'd TAKE your money as well. Appears to be the same Management philosophy at the top, rake in the money and screw the backbone of the organization.
I stopped competition hunting several years ago for basically this same type of stuff but just bought a nice LP style dog and have a young one coming on but now I will take another look at the situation. To venture into this with eyes wide SHUT would most appropriately put someone into the ole saying catagory of "A fool and their money soon part" and then you could call me an IDIOT.
crewchf, See that is where you are wrong AGAIN. That is the great thing about being in a Union is I can voice my opinion and not have to worry about stepping on anyones toes.
If the guys in ARHA stuck together like a union and all walked away from the ARHA I bet Mr. Morgan would start singing a different tune. He may try and protect his buddies for now but as soon as it starts to hit him in his pocket he won't be standing beside them to long.
If the guys in ARHA stuck together like a union and all walked away from the ARHA I bet Mr. Morgan would start singing a different tune. He may try and protect his buddies for now but as soon as it starts to hit him in his pocket he won't be standing beside them to long.
crewchf wrote:Hey Phill31, The next time you have a problem at work with your company. Put it all over a public website like this and see how fast your BUTTTT goes down the HIGHWAY!!!!!
Crew Chief
PS You're as DUMBBB as the rest of these IDIOTSSSS!!!!!!!!
Crew Chief,
I am new to all of this too, so I sure don't have a dog in this hunt - but I don't think your analogy is holding water. It appears to me that everyone tried to handle this in private, but were not allowed to. When a meeting was finally held, they were 'fired'. Now after your company fires you, what do you have to lose?
It appears to me there are to many people that know about this for it to just be a rumor. What is the saying about where there is smoke?
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Hilltop Kennels
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,Bev
I say to the hell with the anti's too but this bad situation in the Beagling world just gives the as???les more fire power to get some of the dumb things passed in our Goverment when they can show Beaglers on bothsides of this situation going after each other. No where in my original post did I say cover it up, I think what I was trying to get across, was that it should be settled in between the Club and only the Club members first. If that does not settle it then they should all get in a room and settle it face to face and the rest of us should stay out of it. Everybody involved will be judged in the end and if people want to go Hell over this kind of problems, then have fun in Hell. Because I will tell the truth and only the truth as along as I am here on this Earth. If you do not like the organization and they have done you wrong and then you need to quit supporting that organization. If you buy a dog from somebody and they do you wrong, surely you do not go back there and buy another dog, you go back there and settle it face to face and if that does not work then you go on your way and just put a note on your pad of paper that is the last time you talk to that person or organization. They will all be judged in the end, and the smallest lie will get you in the hot room just as easy as the biggest.
I say to the hell with the anti's too but this bad situation in the Beagling world just gives the as???les more fire power to get some of the dumb things passed in our Goverment when they can show Beaglers on bothsides of this situation going after each other. No where in my original post did I say cover it up, I think what I was trying to get across, was that it should be settled in between the Club and only the Club members first. If that does not settle it then they should all get in a room and settle it face to face and the rest of us should stay out of it. Everybody involved will be judged in the end and if people want to go Hell over this kind of problems, then have fun in Hell. Because I will tell the truth and only the truth as along as I am here on this Earth. If you do not like the organization and they have done you wrong and then you need to quit supporting that organization. If you buy a dog from somebody and they do you wrong, surely you do not go back there and buy another dog, you go back there and settle it face to face and if that does not work then you go on your way and just put a note on your pad of paper that is the last time you talk to that person or organization. They will all be judged in the end, and the smallest lie will get you in the hot room just as easy as the biggest.
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blackdirt beagles
your missing the point here... this aint about a job where you choose to work and come in and get paid and do as your told. this is about a "hobby" (generic term i guess) that WE pay for by supporting a club or an organization. WE vote on the rules and WE vote on the officers. no one elected a "king" to run the place and make new rules as they see fit. none of this really affects me as i dont trial and only have a couple dogs that even have arha papers, but it really does seem dishonest what del and his pals are trying to do. i dont know randy personally but he seems like a heck of a guy and ive had a couple dog deals with dale and i can easily say he is a stand up, truthful guy.crewchf wrote:Hey Phill31, The next time you have a problem at work with your company. Put it all over a public website like this and see how fast your BUTTTT goes down the HIGHWAY!!!!!
Crew Chief
PS You're as DUMBBB as the rest of these IDIOTSSSS!!!!!!!!
All right guys, this ain't a union deal, that I can say.. I don't know the whole story and the rest of you don't either.. All I do know is our sport is taking a whipping real bad through this.. Can any of you honestly say this is good for us?? I'm saying NO GOOD CAN COME FROM THIS AT ALL..
Crew Chief
PS I'm sorry for calling you idiots, but I'm mad as all get up at all of this!!!!!!!
Crew Chief
PS I'm sorry for calling you idiots, but I'm mad as all get up at all of this!!!!!!!
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Guest
Hey some do know the whole story and that is why it is being discussed so heavily.crewchf wrote:I don't know the whole story and the rest of you don't either..
Yes I think it is good for us because like Bev said if it does not get resolved then it will spread.crewchf wrote:Can any of you honestly say this is good for us?? I'm saying NO GOOD CAN COME FROM THIS AT ALL..
I believe that if you were wrongly accused like these 3 gentlemen have been then you would want your name cleared also.
If people do not stand together on this what will you expect if the next time you are the one that is being singled out
for something you did not do.It was said at the meeting that they would protect the Chairman RIGHT OR WRONG.
Also if your a judge you better step lightly if you want to keep your license.
1 last thing, if the reason for the ARHA not telling us was to protect the names of those getting banned then why did the ban letter say that it would be a lifetime ban if they continued to talk about it. That sounds like they were trying to hide it.
crewchf wrote:All right guys, this ain't a union deal, that I can say.. I don't know the whole story and the rest of you don't either.. All I do know is our sport is taking a whipping real bad through this.. Can any of you honestly say this is good for us?? I'm saying NO GOOD CAN COME FROM THIS AT ALL..
Crew Chief
PS I'm sorry for calling you idiots, but I'm mad as all get up at all of this!!!!!!!
Crewchf, you're right about one thing........you dont know the whole story and I dont recall having you call and ask my side like many have. Feel free to call me anytime.
You think your mad as hell......pour your heart and soul into it for 3-4 years..... bring in new members.....run your guts out chasing other peoples dogs after driving 300 miles overnight....listen to the whinners who have no dogpower......sit thru bitter meetings....promote it.....run across the country to help start new clubs and support them....be at your best and give 110% all the time and have them tell you your banned for speaking the truth.........then tell me how mad you really are.
They dont pay me.......I use to pay them.
To each his own, thats the great thing about America. To think I was banned from a registry this week and will be running in another this weekend........ONLY IN AMERICA BABY!!!!!
That is correct, it was said if anyone else was accused of cheating it wouldnt have been a big deal, obviously anyone who has won a cast or judged a cast has been called a cheater, myself included, thats part of competition.........anyone watch the Olympics.......then you know what I mean. It happens everywhere, even ATHENS! LOLIt was said at the meeting that they would protect the Chairman RIGHT OR WRONG.
Randy