Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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Ron Conroe
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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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jump, if she is that good you only need to go to 3 of them. :shock:

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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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Every body plays the % card when it comes to Reggie.When he came back from Canada if it was bleedin they were breedin it to him hell I think he was bred to a poodle or two.Like Chimney Rock said breed a NICE bitch and he will show you what a reproducer he is.He does cross good with the Prime Time stuff seems to add that punch to them
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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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Yes,I like to check out "percentages" too when it comes to ability to reproduce.BUT, it's hard if not downright almost impossible to figure out "percentages" without first figuring out "percentages" of what? Dogs that finished out to field champions? What about all the pups that a stud produces that never even see a field trial.Field trial dogs get most of the glory and pub. But the bottom line is that in the big picture most beaglers don't trial.Most of the gun hunters I know are just good ole' boys that have some good ole' dogs but how do you keep track of all those pups that nobody outside of their hunting buds know about? How about those super well bred pups that get sold to guys that for one reason or another never do right by the pup and he ends up a dung-hill? I personally know of several guys that have bought and had shipped to them some beautiful pups from Branko [pup and shipping around $500.00 ] and then let them sit in a pen and do nothing with them.How does a situation like that affect the "percentages"? I raised a litter out of Reggie and a very nice old double top and bottom Blue Ninja bitch.Three of them were started early and are just super.The other two may never amount to anything as one is now 14 months old and her owner hasn't done a thing with her-Too busy. The other one ,a nice big male went to a guy that just "had to have a Reggie pup" then he traded him off to a dog jockey when he was 5 months old,then the jockey sold him to another guy that no longer has him.Wonder if anyone has given that pup a chance to make it ? When I know that stuff like that happens ALL the time it makes me a little suspect of looking at "percentages".
Most times the "percentage" talk refers to how many A.K.C. Field Champions the stud has produced,but what about the other registries? What about the other formats? If the stud is producing hounds that finish in the formats that feature the type of hound I like [Large Pack on Hare,Mid-West S.P.O.,A.R.H.A. Little Pack ] then I pay attention.If he's producing a high percentage in U.B.G.F. or Gun Dog brace then it means little to me.
Bottom line is that I read the trial results in Better Beagling,The Rabbit Hunter and The American Beagler pretty regularly and I see a lot of Reggie sired males and females winning and placing in the trialing formats that I favor the type of dog they run.That means to me that he is reproducing some quality progeny.
So many folks want to say "well look at all the pups he's sired"! So???????????? What do you want to do, blame Reggie,Kevin Monroe,Terry Gray or the several hundred people that thought they wanted to try and catch"lightening in a bottle" and breed their female to a World Champion and an International Field Champion.Not that many studs out there with those creds. folks.
Can you even begin to guess how many of those females that Reggie has bred were quality and how many were only mediocre and how many others were just plain junk?
As Chimney Rock stated and I would agree that if you breed quality then Reggie is more than capable of holding up his half of the arrangement.
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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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I whacked my first post, I think it read incorrectly. First off Without a doubt reggie is a hound, I know he has produced titles upon titles in lp as well as ukc offspring are tearing it up.But where are the Field Champions at? Not to say they are not coming but at this time cookie is the only one that comes to mind. Terry is 100% right none of us internet champion beaglers give the bitch its credit due.
Without the bitch we may as well jack the male and call it a day. Secondly my other point is why did so many breed to reggie? IFC ,World hunt winner or ur buddy told ya, i would be willing to bet as i have been a gambler, very very few that have bred have ever even seen the dog preform. Funny how he said she said plays out. Thirdly- I have no problems with reggie, terry or any off the following beat em and they have beat me. but as always when I begin to see field champs start coming then i will be the first to say, Hes the best. At this time i have not seen it. But I will not take anything away from reggie or owners of that line. Too of the best i have seen are eddies and travis hounds. I believe they may make daddy proud and show up. I dont want anyone to get pissed but darn man there are 4000 reggie dogs in the arha with titles and none in midwest? What up with that? As said before Harder than it looks to beatup in the midwest.Just food fer thought.
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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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after 2 pages of compliments now the haters will start to surface :eyes:
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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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Shot Caller wrote:after 2 pages of compliments now the haters will start to surface
Hate to pee in ur wheaties but i aint hating just observing the importance of a quality bitch that most overlook, my bad man not the intent.
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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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Yeah have a question dont get into this field trailing or nothing just trying to get the best gun dog that I can. Have started to pay attention to the breeding of dogs as far as what I like and what i prefer. Have a litter for sale now with some breeding that made good gun dogs but like everybody else am trying to bred the best dog for the purpose that which you use your dogs. I have two females sisters one redtick and one bluetick and have checked around and have looked at endless pedigrees and have found nothing close to this, if anybody knows of a breeding this close would like to talk to that person to get there impressions, if not I am going to make plans to visit Central Ky and do the breeding myself, of course with 271 rockbridge permission. This is the females pedirgree.

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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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I believe the Reggie dogs are doing well in the midwest for the average age they are ,2 or 3. No fc,but soon it will happen.I think he leads sire of the year in All Age .I think shady grove said it all for me.

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I shore am glad I know Eddie and Travis :bigsmile:
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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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maple i agree with you, the dog has been bred 500 times you are gonna produce something sooner or later. and i agree with you that he is one hell of a dog, but the fact is the internet will make or break a dog good or bad.

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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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I agree with what most guys are saying; the quality of the bitches bred to the stud will make or break his reputation as a producer. Take Prime Time: noone bred to him except a few that saw him run while hunting with Brent Gay when Time was young. I didn't get him until he was nearly 6 years old. Not until he got that FC in front of his name did people start using him. Luckily for his reputation, most guys that bred to him were Mid-West beaglers that saw him run at the trials. He was only bred 30 some times, but 90% of them were outstanding bitches. By the time his pups started placing ,he died after accidentally getting into some poison on a hunting trip. I truely believe if he would have lived another 3 or 4 years , his reputation as a producer would not be as good because when people started seeing all the offspring placing , a lot of guys would have brought in several mediocre at best bitches to him & expect him to produce FC'S from these poor quality females. Yeah, I could have made a lot of money if he would have lived another 3 or 4 years, but it could have destroyed his reputation as a quality stud dog. All of his FC'S are out of quality bitches: FC Smith's Bonny Lou, FC Talkabout Calie, FC Spencer's Blue Babe, Gay's Spring Creek Robin, Near FC Hill's Hard Rock'n Wendy, Talkabout Blue Iris. There are also several others from these litters & others that only lack points or a win to finish. How would you like to have these bitches in your kennel to breed to your nice male? Odds are, he would make a good name for himself as a producer. There were several other nice females bred to Time & a lot of his female offspring that are being used as brood bitches & are producing because they are bred well on top & bottom. My Prime Time female produces good pups no matter what I've bred her to so far. I give a lot of the credit to her dam though also; she was a FC & I couldn't imagine a better hunting partner, Silver Spring. I see a lot of Spring's characteristics in Star's pups. I know I've made a long story out of this, but bottom line: judge a male's producing ability by how good the offspring out of quality bitches are. Look at the offspring from several bitches that have been bred to him that you know are good quality & also bred very well & then you can determine how well your male produces.
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The proof is in the pudding on any of em :shock:
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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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I just got off the phone with the AKC there has been 135 litters registered off Reggie not 200 - 500 like has been talked about on this post I am sure this is a lot more then most studs have sired but just wanted to set the record straight.With that being said how many of those 135 bitches were QUALITY females I know I couldnt even begin to name that many bitches that I would consider breeding to.As far as FC they are coming there is at least 5 with 1 win or more on the circuit and like J Lawhorn said most are not over 3 years old they aint even hit there prime yet but still Reggie is the 2008 and 2009 derby sire of the year 2009 all age sire of the year and is running away with all age sire of the year for 2010 and leading the derby sire for 2010 its going to be tight between him and Freejack.In the ARHA Little Pack I couldnt even tell you how many RCH there is, 1 GRRCH and several that lack a win or two of making grand he has enough points to be HOF reproducer x2 and then some just to much hassle to get all the paper work to have him inducted.Every weekend my phone rings with some one telling me my Reggie pup just won this or that and lets not forget about all the gun hunters that have pups off him that never see a field trial but keep the game bag full for them.Love him or hate him breed to him or dont but Reggies name will be mentioned in the same sentence as some of the other great reproducers in beagle history
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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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The Reggie dog!!!!!!! ( What a topic ). I bet there has been more said and written about this hound than any other in history. I've probably given as much or more thought on this hound than the average person. I will give my take on Reggie for what it's worth. My opinion and $1.25 will get you a cup of coffee. Reggie was here in the county as a pup and was owned by Jessie Scrogham. I remember one day I think Reggie was about 8 or 9 mo. old at the time. Will Mason, Jessie and I got together at Jessie's place and ran some young hounds. Reggie was one of those young hounds that we ran. Jessie was wanting to sell him and I watched the pup run. I felt like he was running backwards, sideways, mouthy, about anything bad you can think of but he did have great hunt and mouth. Jessie traded him to John Way and I'm not sure how but Kevin Monroe found out about him but he bought him from John. I have never thought to ask Kevin what he saw in the dog when he watched him run but it had to be something I had missed. I wouldn't have taken him home if Jessie had give him to me and I think Kevin paid pretty good money for him at the time. I remember I thought Kevin was crazy at the time. ( Just goes to show how much I know about dogs ). I really believe the best day in Reggie's life was the day Kevin Monroe took him home. I think if the dog had stayed around here he would never have got his due. As far as field trialing the dog did every thing that was ever ask of him. ARHA NKC World Champion, AKC FC, and IFC. How many can you think of that can say that. When it comes to the breeding pen I don't know how many times he has been bred but it has been a lot. Just say he has only been bred 300 times all together. I can't imagine there being 300 quality bitches in the country. Maybe they were quality but a different style dog than he was. You also have to remember there are some bloodlines that just don't mix well no matter how good the sire and dam are. I watched quite a few Reggie pups run and I wasn't over all impressed with what I saw. The ones I liked I really liked but that wasn't the norm. So I doubted his ability as a stud also. Now I look at dogs like the Cookie bitch of Kevin's and Forest's and it makes me wonder what were you thinking. Then they said Reggie was sterile and couldn't get pups any more. Well I think he has been getting any where from 8 to 12 pups a litter in most of his litters lately. I guess all this comes down to I have probably been as big a Reggie doubter as there is and he has consistently proved me wrong. The dog has done everything ask of him in the field. I know he has a daughter that has won the World Championship twice in NKC ARHA, I think she has made AKC FC also. I have some friends that have Reggie pups that I really like. So I have been a Reggie doubter from day one and he has proved me wrong every single time. I am in the process of working young dogs that may make it to the trials or may not I just don't know yet. You can bet on one thing I wish I had about a 3 yr. old Reggie male that I really liked here to trial and hunt. The hound has earned my respect in every way and yes I have a nice bitch I would love to breed to Reggie. So I guess if anyone ever asks you if Reggie can or can't do something just call me. If I tell you no he can't do that you can bet your ass he will.

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Re: Greenwell's Reggie aka Kentucky Reggie

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In my mind this can be shortened up considerably! i was told by a very wise beagler about a similar subject only the conversation was about IFC Ables East Coast Trimmer when asked about his producing percentage the gentleman simply replied he is a IFC beagle stud not a MIRACLE worker!

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