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Found this post & wanted to remind everyone to be careful what you breed to ...Patch
Brucellosis;
Location: winslow,az.
Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 10:58 pm
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had a frined buy a dog it aborted the pups he had it tested and it tested positive for this. he had dog put down and is cleaning his pens out good.bad thing is he had bred this dog to his best dog n had it tested came back neg. fortunatly ..said he had to test it 2 more times.plus has to test all his other dogs ..is there not a cure >???heck the dog looked good i seen it a few times acted fine .i donty kno alot about this kind of stuff but if they can send a man to the moon shouldnt there be a cure?and just how m uch sanitsing does one have to do after this?man i feel bad for him ..anybody ever had a dog cured from this??????
Last edited by S.R.Patch on Sun May 16, 2004 7:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
Is Brucellosis just something that beagles get. I notice lab. people don't ask for this test before breeding? Or Jack Russel breeder's. I know it's better to be safe than sorry but it adds another cost to breeding and raiseing a litter. Fred
All Dogs can get it!!!!!! Or so i have read here are some good links with info on this. Be very carefull around this stuff has been known to wipe out some outstanding Kennels over the years.
Here are a few sites that give different articles on Canine Brucellosis the first one is as it relates to Trialing and such. The third is pretty technical and gives more data on the disease itself. All GOOD reads and should be required reading for most breeders!
sr patch i never said the guy lived in winchester matter of fact he dont so if u will please get ur facts straight before u get ur panies up inb a wad i would appreciate it.and i never sasked anybody to repost my post with assumptions goin with it!he may live in ur town now where did u live???
In 1964, FC Pearson Creek Stub got it after breeding a bitch that had it. He went sterile as a stump... He was just a futurity. He produced 75 FC's out of 75 litters. Cornell University worked on him for 2 years and he died sterile. It made a believer out of George Nixon who owned him and the rest of the Beagling world back then! To a breeder it is like AIDS. I am surprised how many GUNDOG breeders and Gundog Beaglers don't know about this dreaded disease!
"Run the most rabbit, with the least amout of wasted action"...
Another point I'd like to make is that almost all stud dog owners demand a recent negative Brucellosis test on bitches brought to their stud, yet many of them never test their male. If I'm breeding to your stud who likely has had more contact with bitches from all over, then you can bet your stud fee that I want equal consideration for my bitch. This is too big a risk to leave to luck.
I don't understand the concern for the reputations of beaglers spreading such a terrible disease. The source should be exposed. Who deserves protection, the person spreading the disease, or the unsuspecting beaglers? When I or any other beagler takes a bitch to a stud dog we expect to get a healthy litter of pups, not the loss of the our entire kennel.
Bow,
The location came with the post as a function of the copy/paste I did. The location was the addy of the poster, not the location of the infected hound. Sorry, as it does look that way after you pointed it out.
Hope your friend gets everything taken care of, tell him he's in our prayers as I would wish this on no one ...Patch
Joined: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 159
Location: Salem Oregon
Age: 43
Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 8:01 am
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Here are a few sites that give different articles on Canine Brucellosis the first one is as it relates to Trialing and such. The third is pretty technical and gives more data on the disease itself. All GOOD reads and should be required reading for most breeders!
Gus,
The consern for the breeder is this............. He found the Brucellocis, is doing the required testing and re-testing of all of his other hounds and is destroying to positive hounds. What more can the man do?
This could have just as easily have happened to ANYONE that took a chance on bringing a dog into their kennel without having the hound tested first! Why ruin a mans reputation over something he is containing? He isn't out trying to sell his dogs! He is trying to make sure his whole kennel isn't infected! Give the man a break!
My advise is to test any new hound you purchase BEFORE introducing it to your kennel. Build a quarentine pen if necessary until the results are back.
The fact is you can pick up Brucellocis from anywhere including feild trials. Have your own dogs tested regularly.
The origional poster was not about a pointing fingers and naming names, it was about learning facts about this very bad infection.
This isn't a Witch hunt. This is a wake up call to ALL of us!
ok patch thx for posting that sry if i came on too strong just didnt want folks if they saw an add for dogs for sale in winchester to get ballistic when it aint even here and he dont go around selling dogs he just loves dogs and bought the wrong one now paying the price.. more folks should be checking from now on around these parts!
That is the PROBLEM! People need to know about the disease BEFORE they breed or purchase a hound!!!! What is it going to take to get folks to realize this is SERIOUS And has been for 40 years
Ignorance is no excuse
"Run the most rabbit, with the least amout of wasted action"...
I know the guy involved and he is a straight up honest guy that will do the right thing, he isn't a big dog jockey or dog trader so most folks need not worry. He is doing all of the right things as bow said. He has already had all of his dogs tested and he will have all of his dogs tested again at 30 and 60 days just to be sure. He as well as I learned a powerful lesson from this as the female that appears to have been the initial infected dog had not been bred before, and had only been in his kennel for a couple of months. A lot of folks don't worry about brucellosis tests on dogs that have never been bred. After this it seems that we all should. It is a $35 that is well spent.
Big Dog
Black and Tans, Blue Ticks, and a few others bringing smoke
"The consern for the breeder is this............. He found the Brucellocis, is doing the required testing and re-testing of all of his other hounds and is destroying to positive hounds. What more can the man do? "
That is fine. However he got the disease from some source. It didn't just pop up, unless the bitch has been in trials where she could have picked it up from any other dog.
This subject seems to pop up about twice a year on the boards, so obviosly there is not enough emphasis being placed on stoppintg the spread of the disease.
Maybe the AKC should require a brucellosis test be completed each time a beagle changes owners??
...Patch
