Has anyone ever had to CULL a dog?

[Guest]

Well here I am again. I know what you all are saying. I just couldn't do that myself and sleep at night.
My dad is a believes the way you do and so does my husband. I don't think your evil for feeling that way. If I thought that, I wouldn't be with my husband right now. I am saying that I personally don't like the idea of it. I couldn't sleep at night knowing that I did it. Thats me. I have raised alot of animals. Not only dogs. I feel I have had alot experience in life with animals and my life experiences have worked for me.
I take my dogs to the vet pretty often and they are familar with my dogs. The vet we take our dogs to is very caring and I would feel better doing it that way.
I think that if you talk to most women, that most of them, NOT ALL OF THEM, will comment in the same manner I have.
Most men I have talked to have the same opinion you have.
This is a tough subject and everyone has a right to their opinion. I stick beside my opinion as I have all the years I have raise dogs.
Keep in mind that when I replied to this, I was stating my opinion on what the question was. He ask if he had gave a dog chance, after chance. I assumed he was talking about not hunting properly. That is not worth dying for. If a dog is a biter, sick, or something like that....THATS TOTALLY DIFFERENT! I wouldn't keep a dog that was like that. I definitly wouldn't sell it to anyone or give it to anyone. I would have it put to sleep. So don't get me wrong.
I guess I have said enough on the subject and I hope that no one was offended by how I feel.
I appreciate the fact that you have your opinions and hope you do this for me as well.
Good luck and hope you have lots of luck with your little beagle friends. Wish you all the Best of Luck

[Guest]

Well here I am again. I know what you all are saying. I just couldn't do that myself and sleep at night.
My dad is a believes the way you do and so does my husband. I don't think your evil for feeling that way. If I thought that, I wouldn't be with my husband right now. I am saying that I personally don't like the idea of it. I couldn't sleep at night knowing that I did it. Thats me. I have raised alot of animals. Not only dogs. I feel I have had alot experience in life with animals and my life experiences have worked for me.
I take my dogs to the vet pretty often and they are familar with my dogs. The vet we take our dogs to is very caring and I would feel better doing it that way.
I think that if you talk to most women, that most of them, NOT ALL OF THEM, will comment in the same manner I have.
Most men I have talked to have the same opinion you have.
This is a tough subject and everyone has a right to their opinion. I stick beside my opinion as I have all the years I have raise dogs.
Keep in mind that when I replied to this, I was stating my opinion on what the question was. He ask if he had gave a dog chance, after chance. I assumed he was talking about not hunting properly. That is not worth dying for. If a dog is a biter, sick, or something like that....THATS TOTALLY DIFFERENT! I wouldn't keep a dog that was like that. I definitly wouldn't sell it to anyone or give it to anyone. I would have it put to sleep. So don't get me wrong.
I guess I have said enough on the subject and I hope that no one was offended by how I feel.
I appreciate the fact that you have your opinions and hope you do this for me as well.
Good luck and hope you have lots of luck with your little beagle friends. Wish you all the Best of Luck

[Jack]

Steve I agree with you 100 percent. You owe your pal that much. A dogs hates the Vet's office and I don't want any friend of mine to die very scared at the end. I never ever allow my dogs to have a chicken leg, I give them a Drumstrick and while enjoying this they never hear the gun pop. I myself feel this is part of haveing many hounds in a lifetime.

[coyote hunter]

You Know guest you talk of the law as if we that don't look at thinks your way are criminals or law breakers it could very will be breaking the law and you think that is not right and thats ok its what you feel about it ,but let me ask you about this if a man kills another man should we feed the killer in jail for the rest of his life??Thats law end of that topic.I can't speak for everyone on this topic but I know I don't keep beagles because I hate them or want to treat them bad its because I love them and the sport and will give any dog his time to come around,however the way I look at it PERSONALLY if the dog is a lemom he is a lemon ,and a dead one at that .Why give it to someone that thinks he wants a dog to make his kids happy for a day and when the shine wares off put him on a chain and let him grow old there,or give her to this nice person that want to breed the s##t out of it ,tell me is that right ??Do what ya got to do for the dog.Just my thinking Take care Dan.

[dosgris]

you know,,, whenever i have had to put a dog down,,, just a couple of times in my life,,, birth defect,,, puppy that had been bitten by older dog and had a brain infection, convulsions, etc ,,, old age last resort,,, it stayed with me for days,, literally days. each of these had to be done,, or they would have died in prolonged agony,, but it still was hard,, and affected me for days,, it is something no one likes,,, but i agree that i would rather have the guts to do it than to send it down the line,,, if you can't pull the trigger get someone else to,, but i believe in being there,,, for the dog's sake.

[MacMaster]

Thanks guys and girls,
I'm glad that I don't/won't have to do that. I just got some of that fine BRAMLETT line!
Thanks Blackdirt!!

[YGD ( BUNNY BUSTER)]

ATTA BOY , BRIAN. YOU SAID IT ALL.
SWIFTLY, PAINLESSLY, HUMANELY,
BUNNYBUSTER

[cc]

it is something that is nessasery for the betterment of the breed. something that i can do that isn't fun but needed

[daustin]

This is something me and my wife disagree on as well.
I believe when a beagle gets old and is in poor health that one last hunt is the grandest way for him to go. Unlike going to the vet where he is already scared and knows the place means pain is cruel. Let him go doing what he has loved to do all his life - rabbit hunting.

As for culling pups, only if they have a severe health problem. Otherwise fix em and place them.

Dane

[Boomer]

Having a dog "put to sleep" does not have to be done on a "cold vet table." Many vets will come to your house and do it where the dog is comfortable. I've seen it done quickly, but it didn't look as gentle as I expected (although the dog is supposedly so far off to sleep to notice). I've seen my share of gunshots that aren't done properly and cause suffering, too.

Whatever the "humane" was is for deciding when it's time for a dog to go, I think that killing a beagle just because it won't hunt well enough or somehow doesn't meet your performance standards in some way is disgusting. Taking them to the shelter is just as good as killing them, because odds are they won't be adopted. It's not that hard to find them good homes yourself with a minimal amount of screening. And if you're having to cull pretty regularly, then you really need to revisit your breeding stock/system and your training methods. Maybe you're the one who can't do things right. Maybe you should leave the breeding and training up to someone else. Maybe the beagles you have that do right by you just happened to be exceptional enough to overcome your shortcomings.

Not every beagle is top quality, but beagles aren't cockroaches, field mice, or coyotes. They're not pests. We shouldn't be exterminating them. And they're not trash, either. A beagle is a beagle. Show the breed some respect, not just your top dogs. If you can't, then you should wonder why you're a beagler in the first place.

[REALITY CHECK]

If you respect the breed then you must cull in my opinion. If you give a cull away then someone breeds it and then there are more culls running around the breed. Why can people not get it??? As a breeder you owe it to the breed to CULL!!! I personally have never seen anyone exterminate them like cockroaches or field mice. GET REAL PEOPLE. Hey Boomer wake-up!!!!!!

[windy hollow]

If you respect the breed then you must cull in my opinion. If you give a cull away then someone breeds it and then there are more culls running around the breed. Why can people not get it??? As a breeder you owe it to the breed to CULL!!! I personally have never seen anyone exterminate them like cockroaches or field mice. GET REAL PEOPLE. Hey Boomer wake-up!!!!!!

spay or neutor the dog and either sell it as a household pet or give it to someone that needs a friend. Beagles are alot more than hunting dogs.


this Beagle is ch Brushyrun Dese's Calico Jack owner Thomas J Hartung this dog wont hunt, and if you put a bullet in his head you just shot well over $1,ooo.oo worth of fine show dog.

[Steve C.]

I should reiterate that "cull" doesn't necessarily mean putting a dog down. I cull a lot of hounds from my kennel but almost all go to other folks as hunting dogs or occasionally pets. I culled a dog last year by giving it to a friend who promptly finished her as an AKC field champion. She didn't have enough nose for my plans but otherwise was a terrific hound. I've given away a number of good hounds as incentive to join our club because they went over 13" or I didn't like their conformation or some other minor flaw. I've never taken a dog to a shelter and have kept a few hounds all their lives despite the fact that they weren't very good dogs because I couldn't find a home for them. The only dogs I put down are the aged or on one occasion a serious injury that was likely going to result in eventual death. I put another down because she killed her kennel mate. I agree with Boomer that if you're putting down a lot of dogs, then your breeding program needs another look.

[Boomer]

Reality Check,

It is relatively commonplace to find people called veterinarians who can perform relatively simple surgeries known as "neutering" for male dogs and "spaying" for female dogs. These surgeries render the animals incapable of breeding. Yes, the surgical procedures do cost money. However, a great number of people (such as myself) have found that people will purchase these dogs at a cost that is the equivalent of the surgical cost. The vast majority of dog purchasers out in the world are not looking for breeding stock. Some animal shelters offer low-cost spay/neuter events at times throughout the year to take advantage of, too.

Hence, there is no cost to the person who is getting rid of the dog, the dog need not be exterminated, and there's no risk of the dog ever being bred. Surely you must be familiar with this phenomenon since you are so keen on "reality!"

The reality is that a lot of breeders don't care what happens to what they produce - they only care about the dogs that produce for them. The reality is that a lot of people are too lazy to make any effort to find homes for their culled dogs and would much rather just dump them at a shelter or put a .22 in their skull. The reality is that a lot of people think it's manly to shoot a cull dog and pansy to find it a pet home, and they worry their buddies might nick-name them "Peta" or something.

[bluegrass]

Shouldn't culling be left up to the individual breeder??? We are plastering our ideas of culling over these pages for any anti or animal rights wacko out there to see. And they are seeing dissention here, not unity. If everyone knows that culling goes on, lets maybe keep it a private matter so at least it isn't used to inflame those that are a little off in their thinking about hunters and beaglers. I'm sure no one gets perverse pleasure in offing any of their hounds, so give away, bury or whatever, but lets be responsible in doing either option. God gave man dominion over animals, use your interpretation of how to best use that responsibility. Tony