Warfield Red

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 5:30 pm

My post above got me looking at pedigrees online and a couple that we have from the 60's.Linesman had a lot of yellowcreek in him and He was behind many of the great Pleasant Run hounds that are referred to as bluecap breeding.
J.Murphy/Murphy's Kennel

DG TX · Post by **DG TX** » Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:16 pm

The Warfield Red is about the same as saying that ALL Patch bred hounds are lemon spotted. Just a selling gimic...

AlabamaSwamper · Post by **AlabamaSwamper** » Thu Jul 10, 2003 12:18 am

True but the "warfields" that my uncle used to raise were not just a red beagle. They had that distinct look to them and almost were purplish looking. Maybe the color was already named before he came along and someone just named him that. Oh well!!!!!

DON · Post by **DON** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:00 pm

if u send me your e-mail i will send u a pic of the dog leck@boilermakers.net

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:57 pm

I know this an old topic but I was wondering if the same thing that held true to these red dogs ........is it the same way with a "Clayco beagle? Is that just a name that was pinned to yellow & white beagles to sell pups?

Tabbycat Elkins

DG TX · Post by **DG TX** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:08 pm

Are you talking about the Clayco's that were from Texas back in the 60's

Alabama John · Post by **Alabama John** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 9:49 pm

J. Murphy, speaking of Pleasant Run dogs, look at the pedigree on Pleasant Run Postman. That is what I started off with in the early 50's. That and Pageline Parson.

I don't think many dogs have all champions in their pedigree like he had. That was the only one I have ever seen that was all red top and bottom, all generations back. Is it possible to print it in color on this board? I would like to see it and maybe someone else would.

Was there any others.

DG TX Duke, help me on this.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:53 pm

Alabama as I write this I am looking at the pedigree of the first beage I can remember us having.We had some before him but I dont remember them.I was 3 when we got drew-Guy(1967).He was a great grandson of Pleasant run Diplomat and a great grandson of Wilcliffe Bannister.He was a grandson of IFC Goldentone Chimer.Probably the best gundog we have ever or ever will own.
J.Murphy/Murphy's Kennel

backyard beagler · Post by **backyard beagler** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:37 am

I have a red dog that has a dog with the name of
m. william's warfield lady about 5 or 6 generatons back I would guess it's just a name. if I ever sell any I guess i'll have to say they are warfield reds

j/k

DG TX · Post by **DG TX** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:22 pm

Bama, In the field trial circles, it is not unusual to have a hound bred like that. The first registered hound I bought was 87% red bred. Most folks back then bred to what they saw in competition that they liked and did well at the field trials. "Competition tested" I guess you would say.
I feel we should have seen that "50 field champion producer" a long time ago in the SPO trials. I think the reason why is gunners tend to keep a lot of hounds that are "nearly" good enough to finish. And they tend to breed to that hound more than say a "trial" man would have 45-50 years ago. The saying goes "they might not finish but they will make a whale of a gundog"

This shows in the pedigrees of the SPO hounds more. Even though they may do a lot of gunning, a true competition Beagler culls to win first, not to hunt. This is how it should be as long as hounds are judged with ALL aspects of hunting Beagles are kept in mind... In recent years it has been a problem in some areas of the country...

J Murphy, That was a great bred hound you had there back in 67. He was bred to run a rabbit at any speed

DLBERRY · Post by **DLBERRY** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:05 am

I always thought a Red/White dog was a Warfield Red. But a older and wiser coon hunting buddy told me that variation on the tale of where that name came from. You learn everyday you are alive.

VABEAGLER · Post by **VABEAGLER** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:57 am

"they might not finish but they will make a whale of a gundog"

Don't mean to get off track but shouldn't field trials promote the best gun dog?

I firmly believe that if more emphasis was put on real field ability (accomplishment) instead of trial ability (style) then we would as a whole see better beagles.

Shouldn't field trial winners be the best gun dogs?
We all know that in many circumstances this is not the way?

After all they are called field trials for a reason. To see who has the best performing dog in the field. Rabbit hunting is a field sport of gun dogs.

Not meaning to step on toes but i always thought that is what started field trials in the first place. People who wanted to see the best hunting dogs perform in the field.

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 7:32 pm

patch is right the dog was named after the owener his name was red,,,,,,,,,

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