coyote dog to take with beagles...

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

Mybeagles----like I said maybe I am wrong but I would be more than happy to let it happen if I could ever get in the right situation... Like I said he is one bad sob....No joke....I would personally rather fight a coyote than tangle with him...really I am not tryin to brag on my dog or say something that may be false but I HONESTLY believe my dog could take a yote with little more than a few scratches and maybe torn ear to show for it...

No it won't hunt, run or go lookin for a yote and it wouldn't even move a muscle toward it if it saw one but given that command and if the yote stood up to it....good bye yote

Ok I am done posting on this topic now!

[EARLYBIRD]

I had a female caught by a yote last night she's ok .

[ANTHONY KERR]

How about the old Rhodesian Ridgebacks ? They were used to bay lions in Africa. I know a guy that has one as a pet that is meek, but he is a pretty good sized hound. Probably weighs 80 pounds and is not fat. The biggest coyote I have heard of here was about 48 pounds.

[chapkosbeagles]

my beagles we run most in the winter time so i have not ran into the yotes that dont like to run. if i have we had a lot of dogs on the ground as my dog will run by herself, but i do have guys i run with also. the group i hunt with shot 80 this winter and i can tell you know more about it than i. my dog bays by herself but is not scared to fight if the yote attacts. with the others to back her she dives right in wanting the first bite. she is a smart fighter compared to a lot of big males. but my dog will get the job done

[greg beck]

i have a maremma sheepdog, they are a cousin to the great pyreenes. they are a little finer bone than their cousin. my male will run with my beagles. they can kill a coyote one on one. i do know that last winter while feeding my beagles i saw two coyotes watching me. the maremma ran both coyotes off. i have never had an injury to my beagles from a coyote.

[AlabamaSwamper]

Guys I used to hunt with got so tired of losing dogs in the fights that they started breeding their biggest, meanest Walker to a very aggressive Pit Bull female they bought.

When the race started winding down and the running dogs got real close, they would get as close as possible and turn those dogs loose on the yote. They had to cull hard (yes, CULL as in kill) the less aggressive pups as they were no good.

They got out of those kill dogs for a while. They killed a guy's calf and all dogs were put down on the spot when they arrived. Farmer wasn't mad as they all knew each other and they've probably saved him several over the years by killing the yotes. They paid him for it, no problem.

I've seen foxhound bred dogs that we deer hunted with go in a brushpile and bring yotes out alive then once the yote got away the race was on. Course, I've also seen her nearly dead from it.

We also have a lot of cross bred yotes that get 75+lbs. I've personally killed one. Those can be bad on a 100lb yote hound. All those big strays have apparently bred a few females or been bred by yotes.

Yotes won't fight unless they are cornered or ran down. Keep 20+ hounds on one long enough with fresh dogs coming every hour or two and you will catch it or it will tire and turn and fight. That is one reason beagles don't bother them to much. They can't catch them.

[mybeagles]

chapkobeagles,

I dont claim to be an expert, but for two years I went on several hunts a week because I wanted to get into the sport so bad. My comments are based on what I seen.

If your dog will keep a grown coyote at bay without help and willingly go in for a fight you have a special dog. Im not exactly sure how many, but Im guessing Ive watched over 200 dogs run coyote and I never seen one that would do it by itself. Some of these dogs were purchased for over $10,000. If I wasnt stuck in Korea right now I would love to see that hound go. I hope she doesnt go in for the fight by herself. This would likely lead to her demise, or at a minimum a vet bill that would scare you.

I heard from a friend of Branko Kurpan that he spent a good chunk of money trying to come up with a coyote dog that could finish things with a kill. He crossed Irish Wolf Hounds, but apparently didnt come up with anything because he got out of it. Every one that breeds agressive enough dogs to kill coyotes ends up with dogs that kill everything including eachother.

[reddog1]

Here in southern Mi. just south of Lansing we use Patch Hounds and I can tell you that they are not afraid of coyotes. in fact they hate them and will stand face to face with a yote any day of the week. We started out with running Walkers in the 90's and they were afraid of yotes, They would chase the yote but not fight it when it stopped so about 5 years ago we switched to Patch Hounds and we don't have the fear problem any longer. For those non believers get ahold of me this winter and you can see for yourself.

[chapkosbeagles]

i will say if you get a bold beagle with sprite they will lnot back down from anything. My special beagle (elmer) that i have told all you about. he fought with my coon dog to the death and never backed down he was the elfa male around here. I say was cause my coon dog killed him,BUT dont think for a min that elmer dident start it and would not quite cause he was a fighter. he would get in his moods and just jump on the coon dog for a long time he kicked his azz. so i can say a beagle with sprite will fight to the death out numberd or not i do know that.

[SilverZuk]

Silverzuk, your description fits exactly what i would want also.

If you are really serious about a protection dog, you might check into great pyrenees.
I know several people that have them to guard goats and sheep.
The ones I have seen are flat out territorial killers, they don't care if it is dog, coyote, fox, groundhog, etc.
Anything that gets near the goats die.

I know a man that has a pair, and he hasn't lost a goat in a long time.
I've seen them chase coyotes and dogs clear across the next farm.
The great pyrenees did kill his dog when it got too close. They have killed several other dogs in the area, maimed many more, and recently killed a friend's beagle that ran a rabbit near the goats.

I speculate that if you raise them with your beagles as the herd, nothing will ever touch one as long as the great pyrenees can get there first.
They are the most effective herd protecting dog I know of.
The down side is they will kill anything that is not part of the herd.

[wvduece]

i use to know a few guys that had these dogs n raised them as pups right with their game cocks they wouldnt even kill a lil biddy chick they were great guard dogs foxes or yotes never heard of any killing a yote but kept them run off from their chicken yard big white thick haired dogs jb

Silverzuk, your description fits exactly what i would want also.

If you are really serious about a protection dog, you might check into great pyrenees.
I know several people that have them to guard goats and sheep.
The ones I have seen are flat out territorial killers, they don't care if it is dog, coyote, fox, groundhog, etc.
Anything that gets near the goats die.

I know a man that has a pair, and he hasn't lost a goat in a long time.
I've seen them chase coyotes and dogs clear across the next farm.
The great pyrenees did kill his dog when it got too close. They have killed several other dogs in the area, maimed many more, and recently killed a friend's beagle that ran a rabbit near the goats.

I speculate that if you raise them with your beagles as the herd, nothing will ever touch one as long as the great pyrenees can get there first.
They are the most effective herd protecting dog I know of.
The down side is they will kill anything that is not part of the herd.

[mybeagles]

reddog,

I will agree that beagles are as good as any breed for running coyote and maybe better. The reason for this is they dont put enough pressure on a coyote to cause it to stop and fight. If they could, and your beagles would stand face to face with a coyote you would loose your whole pack in one race.

I have personally watched a coyote on a 16" male beagle that thought he would stand face to face. It took 5 seconds and the dog was ripped in half and there was nothing I could do about it.

Some pretty big pills to swollow being tossed out here guys!

P.S. The best races I have witnessed were with beagles but when coyote stops YOU have to go in and make it run again.

[reddog1]

All mighty coyote guru, You have never seen our dogs run so how can you say that our beagles don't put pressure on yotes. You have never seen the coyote stop in front of our dogs so how can you say that they won't fight. I my not be as smart as you and all but I know what I've seen and I know what our hounds can do and thats all I'm going to say about that. We all have our own opinion.

[chapkosbeagles]

reddog i would love to come out and go hunting with you guys this winter or invite you up to run with me i would really like to see them hounds go

[reddog1]

chapkosbeagles,

I believe you live in Owasso and thats only 45 min. from me. Look me up this winter and you can either come along with us or we can come up there. You won't be disapointed.