technique used train to come w/e-collars

[thornie]

I train a hard to handle dog in this manner. I go to the farm and put them on a 50 ft. check cord with a e-collar also. I begin by walking and not saying anything to the dog, letting it run anywhere and doing anything it wants to. Then I stop and call dog to me, if it pays no attenion, I start brining it to me with the cord, once i have it to me, I give it a little treat. I
do this until dog starts coming on command. I then release the check cord and use some small e-collar reinforcement to the come command and rewarding with a treat, when it happens. With the cord on, if dog goes to take off from thr e-collar all you have to do is get the cord and start again. 15-30 min a day, usally a couple of days and I have had great success with this method. When you go to field, wear e-collar and use it
when needded, at mild stimulation. When dog comes, dont forget the treat. I buy a bag of small bones at Tractor supply. This the method I use and it works for me.

[Phillip Smith]

First I always use the dummy collar for about a week. Also use the rope to teach the dog to come before using the e-collar. Then in the yard, never in the field first I put the e-collar on and the long rope. I let the dog get interested in something and call them to me. If they don't come at once I bump them on #1 setting, if no reaction I go to #2, sometimes I have to use #3. Don't over do it because if you do the dog want leave your side when yard training. Once the dog responds to the collar and learns what you want then you are ready to use it in the field. When you get ready for her to come in then call her and bump her on 1 or 2. Wait a little while if she dosen't come then bump her again, if she's on her way it want hurt anything. Keep bumping her and waiting to give her time to come in. If she don't come in after a couple two or three times turn it up a little then she will sure come.

[opinionated]

First of all I don't use the method of scolding the dog when I finally catch it. That serves no purpose but letting go of the frustration felt from the dog not responding to his masters commands. Question: when the dog is at your home and your not running, does the dog come on command EVERY time? If not, you need to start back at basics. Such as leaving her loose in the yard on a 50 ft lead rope. She'll need diversions and distractions along the way to see if she comes back on a dime. If she doesn't then you have to pull that rope and bring her in calling come over and over and when she gets to you praise her....GOOD DOG, GOOD DOG. Practice this time and time and over and over until that come command is pounded and imbedded into her noggin. Then take her out after weeks of practice and see if she isn't on command.

[Boomer]

The "switch method" may work the first time, or the first few times, but eventually that dog is going to want to stay away, and you'll have to start chasing her. Some dogs do learn, but more often than not, they become fearful and sometimes even just plain shut-down and stop working altogether.

I've got one that I used to have to drag in when the "workday" is done. It's not that she ignores me...she doesn't hear me call her because her nose is in the way. I can walk right up to her, and she's so caught up in scenting that I sometimes scare the bejesus out of her when she finally notices me standing right next to her. She's so caught up in working that she doesn't notice what's going-on in the world around her. I started giving her a treat every time she'd stop working and come to me. Now, as soon as she notices that the other dogs are back with me (which does still take some time when she's caught up in scenting), she runs to me to get her treat. The "reward method" has always worked for me over a little bit of time. It's a lot better for me and for the dog than throwing a temper-tantrum. I've used shock collars before with some success, but not all dogs respond well to it, and some dogs shut-down. I use it as an absolute last resort.

Give me that stubborn, driven dog over a lazy dog any day!

[snowshoehareguide]

ive seen g bowers dogs run. ones i saw handle great.. and they are rabbit running beasts on bare ground... gary read rope method above.. use collar and rope at first... sometimes a dog will run away when you shock it.... just like your swith method is working on most but not on this one.. get them to come to you with rope on first.... and i have an empty dog house . pete