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Danny King wrote:Well i know that down in florida they used pitbulls to get after the hogs on the game ranches and you take the same dog out as pertection in the woods i was told buy a guy who owned a ranch down there that you dont walk in the woods alone you wont come out you take a pitbull and a 9 mm

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That is correct Danny, I am heading to Fla this fall to do just that. I can't wait to watch thos dogs do their thing!!

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paz wrote:
B.Trull wrote:
Remember Thall communism is an economic system , not a political system. It never really ever truly existed, nor does it exist now in china. Those countries simply have more of a command economy than what do western captialist nations; that however is changing more and more also.
I have to differ on the definition of communism there, Brad. Communism is a political and economic. But hey, I stray from the discussion :cool:


Errrr, I will still beg to differ. Go back to tossin your kegs, manly man :lol: The new pineapple/cherry wine is pretty lame ???

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I think a person should be able to do what ever they please with an animal that they own. I would never go to a dog fight, but I'm not going to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their own property. Most of these dogs are taken care of better than you bunny hugers in disguise, on this thread, take care of your own animals. we have enough to worry about in this world, why does it bother people so much, not one person on this earth has to watch a dog fight. The people that want these guys thrown in jail are the same people That voted to stop smoking in any public place in Ohio, made it illegal to drive without a seat belt, made it illegal to butcher a horse. If every body would just mind their own business, and worry about yourself, the world would be a better place

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why is this even on here?I don't look at this board to hear people arguing about whats right an what's wrong,this whole discussion sickens me,I'm glad I only have to answer for myself and not you all,Denny
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Jumpmaster you hit the nail on it's big head!!!
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jumpmaster wrote:I think a person should be able to do what ever they please with an animal that they own. I would never go to a dog fight, but I'm not going to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their own property. Most of these dogs are taken care of better than you bunny hugers in disguise, on this thread, take care of your own animals. we have enough to worry about in this world, why does it bother people so much, not one person on this earth has to watch a dog fight. The people that want these guys thrown in jail are the same people That voted to stop smoking in any public place in Ohio, made it illegal to drive without a seat belt, made it illegal to butcher a horse. If every body would just mind their own business, and worry about yourself, the world would be a better place
yeah it would be a better place. you are full of crap.

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B.Trull wrote:
paz wrote:
B.Trull wrote:
Remember Thall communism is an economic system , not a political system. It never really ever truly existed, nor does it exist now in china. Those countries simply have more of a command economy than what do western captialist nations; that however is changing more and more also.
I have to differ on the definition of communism there, Brad. Communism is a political and economic. But hey, I stray from the discussion :cool:


Errrr, I will still beg to differ. Go back to tossin your kegs, manly man :lol: The new pineapple/cherry wine is pretty lame ???
Go ask all the peasants that Stalin butchered if communism is only different economically than capitalism. duh :roll:
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When I see promoters put on the gloves and duke it out I may believe that there is no correlation between boxing and dog fighting. Promoters such as Don King and Bob Arum select athletic young men with little education and with little chance of wealth put them in a ring and let them beat the other senseless. Cassius Clay and Joe Louis are two examples. Those were two of the more successful stories and both were in no better mental condition than a pit bull in their later years. The less fortunate like Benny Kid Peret lost their lives.

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To all of you who are saying what someone does in private or with his own property should just be left alone, there is a name for that type of governing, it's called anarchy.

I'm not surprised that anarchists think dog fighting is just fine.
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BJK wrote:I'm not saying I'm for it nor am I saying I'm against it. But just for the sake of debating, arguing and dialogue, what's the difference between dog fighting and professional boxing or this new extreme fighting, or a martial arts competition. The participants get judged and a winner is decided on how well you beat your opponent right?

What about the violence that we humans impose on each other.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
Humans enter the contests on thier own will and do not fight to the death.
Slight and subtle difference, but it is still there.

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warddog wrote:I've seen a big ole boar coon tear up some pretty good coon hounds and the worst I ever saw was a groundhog that tore up one of my hounds. My uncle used to bear hunt with dogs and I've seen many a bear dog on their last breath after jumping a bayed bear. I'm not saying I condone the fighting of any animals but truth is we ALL do it in one form or another when we pursue game with dogs. If we're living in a glass house best not be throwing stones.
You are exactly right and very well said.

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How about bull fighting in Spain?

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B.Trull wrote:
paz wrote:
B.Trull wrote:


I have to differ on the definition of communism there, Brad. Communism is a political and economic. But hey, I stray from the discussion :cool:



Errrr, I will still beg to differ. Go back to tossin your kegs, manly man :lol: The new pineapple/cherry wine is pretty lame ???
Of course you would..... Might want to go back and study some more!!!!

I will make sure that I have some stogs and fresh apple wine ready when we bust bunnies next month in the politically incorrect section of Iowa :lol:

Check the new avatar, I'll have to get some where I am getting better elevation on the keg tho.....

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THALL wrote:Cockfighting is my passion. i love it. Prominent men such as ex-US presidents have been very involved in chicken fighting. I quit because of recent laws have made it illegal. Animal fighting may be wrong, but i think wrong to say what u can and can't do in private. I think dog fighting is bad, but so do people that don't understand chicken fighting.


One thing i know for a fact: Animal rights idiots will come after us as hunters sooner or later. So if your with the animal right idiots at all, your one of them.

Dog fighting is a fellony, chicken fighting is in most places. Next these idiots go after: rodeos, circuses, hunters, fisherman,field trialers,... ect
Next time you critisize some for something you think is cruel, stop and think about some of the things you like that involves a animal.

I like animals. I like to see them all get their proper care. I don't like people to intentionally hurt them, as in dog fighting/cock fighting. I wouldn't say i'm Animal Rights person.

There are always going to be groups of people that we don't like. I guess it's just part of society. What I do support is their right to stand up for what they believe in no matter how utterly ridiculous it is. This is America, and everyone has that right, but not to intend to hurt/injure animals. I doubt the Creator put the animals here for them to fight their brains out and kill each other for humans enjoyment. It was people who did that.

I would never support any group that wanted to take away the rights for hunters, or fisherman. That's something natural. As far as circuses go, I don't think you can hold that on the same level as hunting, fishing, and field trials.

I don't like circuses, for the simple fact that these are wild animals, and i'm not quite sure you can ever tame a wild animal. I don't like them knowing at any time that animal can turn and injure someone. I think they are animals left to be in the wild. I'd leave the exhibits to Zoo's, and other wild life sanctuarys. But that's going off topic.

I personally know nothing about Animal Rights activists, except for we had some idiot PETA people in our area last year. I honestly don't think Animal Rights people will ever injure the rights to hunt, or fish. It wouldn't even be a concern of mine because the thought of outlawing that is just utterly ridiculous also.
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THALL wrote:Amimals are not people period. I know i'm a backward dumba$$ from Arkansas, so you don't need to tell me. If you starve a dog of food or water your cruel. I'll never Agree that people who fight animals are cruel.

Next time you shock your dog off a deer, whip him for not going hunting, pull the trigger on a poor little rabbit, leave your poor hunting dog in a DOG house when it's cold out, ..ect, Just think about it, because on day it'll be a crime.

Animal right idiots, your with'em or against them. I see where some stand.
You all see where i stand. I against them. I think their more communist than Hitler. I'll shut up before i get in trouble.
You're right Animals are Animals, but that doesn't give us the right to mistreat them. Well they may not be a cruel person individually but they are cruel to animals.
I don't think Rabbit Hunting will EVER be a crime, or hunting other small game for that matter! It helps control their overall population, and I'd agree as seeing that as a part of Nature.

As far as this line, "You're either with them or against them", is such an uneducated view. Because you support proper care for animals, doesn't make you an Animal Rights Activists, or part of stupid organizations such as Peta.
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B.Trull wrote:
THALL wrote:Amimals are not people period. I know i'm a backward dumba$$ from Arkansas, so you don't need to tell me. If you starve a dog of food or water your cruel. I'll never Agree that people who fight animals are cruel.

Next time you shock your dog off a deer, whip him for not going hunting, pull the trigger on a poor little rabbit, leave your poor hunting dog in a DOG house when it's cold out, ..ect, Just think about it, because on day it'll be a crime.

Animal right idiots, your with'em or against them. I see where some stand.
You all see where i stand. I against them. I think their more communist than Hitler. I'll shut up before i get in trouble.

No, its the ol' divide and conquer tactic . How bout all you cruel people who put hooks in poor little fishes mouths for sport ???


Loved going with my wife and her uncle to the cock fights in the philippines. I did pretty well there, only honkey in a small arena of 500 or so, pinoys . The loser gets skinned and slapped on a stick with some terrakyi sauce. :lol:


Remember Thall communism is an economic system , not a political system. It never really ever truly existed, nor does it exist now in china. Those countries simply have more of a command economy than what do western captialist nations; that however is changing more and more also.
That isn't a good comparision. Fishing to cock fighting. You can't even hold them on the same level. Fishing is something humans do for food consumption, a survial skill, dog fighting is not.

Jack wrote:Dog fighting is not my thing. But will stand up and be counted for Cock fighting. Game Cocks get the best of care and are a wonder when they are on point. I used to fight them and had to quit because you can not fight with those that have drug money.
Get the best of care? What kind of life do they live though? They are born to fight, and fight to the death. I don't see how you can support one animal and not the other.
DAVIDC wrote:To all of you who think chicken fighting is cruel go check out Tyson somtime. These chickens never have a chance and are pumped full of steriods and killed for the market. I bet you eat chicken though. Answer me one thing if chicken fighting did'nt exsist, or the goverment wanted to confiscate GAME ROOSTERS what do you think they would do with them? Theres nothing you can do to a game chicken to make it fight. Its been bred in them. I've witnessed two brothers grow up together on a farm without any human influence besides food. One day out of the blue when they matured they decided to fight till one was dead. Nobody made them thats just what their bred to do. If your against chicken fighting than that means you want the species of Game Chickens extinct. I personally think every animal is here for a reason.
I would think they would euthanize them. They aren't here to fight, it isn't natural, as far as I understand Humans created that..Do they have another use? I don't know.
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Ask the People in England if Hunting with Hounds can be outlawed.
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