Why are some dogs faster than others?

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Brian from Mi.
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Why are some dogs faster than others?

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Why are some dogs faster than others?For example ,take two dogs of equal size and one may be blazing fast and the other very slow.I have seen 13 inch hounds that can just light a fire under Mr. Rabbit.I also have seen 15 inch plus brace hounds that are quite slow.These brusers looked so big and strong that you really expect to see something different.I was just wondering is there something in a hounds makeup that is the deciding factor if they are faster or slower .Or is it the amount of heart within the dog? Brian from Mi. :D

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The same thing that makes us humans the same way. You put what appears to be equal men or women side by side and put them in a race. There can only be one winner, and it may not be the same every time.

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Brian, this is a very good question and one that sure brings controversy.

As I see it, the breeding is most important. You'll see a fast dog from slow parents occasionally, but it an exception or throwback, and breeding to it to get pups that are fast will probably bring you pups slow like its blood lineage.

When you breed for fast footed running dogs (not wild runners) start off with parents that can really burn up a rabbit track. You, when breeding for speed and all that goes with it, will be automatically breeding for the many other traits that must go with a dog that can run a track at a faster speed than most Beagles.

Some of the additional traits to breeding required to run fast are: conformation, superior nose that is especially good if they are a winder, brains to learn the tricks of a rabbit especially around water hazards, instinct and ability to adjust to what ever is available to get the job done like drifting, scenting the wind with head up, looking ahead, and not the least, but most important to me is the desire with the goal to always catch.

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[quote="Alabama John"]Brian, this is a very good question and one that sure brings controversy.

As I see it, the breeding is most important. You'll see a fast dog from slow parents occasionally, but it an exception or throwback, and breeding to it to get pups that are fast will probably bring you pups slow like its blood lineage.

When you breed for fast footed running dogs (not wild runners) start off with parents that can really burn up a rabbit track. You, when breeding for speed and all that goes with it, will be automatically breeding for the many other traits that must go with a dog that can run a track at a faster speed than most Beagles.

Some of the additional traits to breeding required to run fast are:







conformation, superior nose that is especially good if they are a winder, brains to learn the tricks of a rabbit especially around water hazards, instinct and ability to adjust to what ever is available to get the job done like drifting, scenting the wind with head up, looking ahead, and not the least, but most important to me is the desire with the goal to always catch.[/quote]




John,
What is a winder?

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Brian, a winder is a dog that can run off of body scent on the side of weeds, or just run scent that is in the air where a rabbit ran like one running across a clean pasture. Opposed to one trailing with its head down, nose on the ground smelling the rabbits foot scent.

I sometimes see them in the open swamps with their head carried all the way up, nose sticking out, running hard as much as 10 feet downwind on a day with a breeze from where you saw the rabbit actually traveling. They can swim and trail scent across still water too.

They seem to find a lot of rabbits also. I see them come to a thick place, move to be downwind, stick their heads and necks out and stand and smell. If they smell a rabbit, then go in and jump it or if they don't smell one, pass that patch by and check the next one.

Most Beaglers do not like this type and my brother would kill them all. He wants a dog to keep the track between its legs and its head down at all times. He calls my type bird dogs, but, we both sure liked winder Pointers opposed to trailing Pointers when we bird hunted.
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A winder is a dog that picks the scent up out of the air without having to have his nose on the ground. People will say a dog is winding a rabbit if he is running with his head up and driving the rabbit while on the line.

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A winder is a drifter or that is the term we always used. I have seen some big game hounds that could run a trac 50 feet away from where the animal. Yes I said I have seen it and it is so. A true drifter is athing of beauty and is not faulty but a dog of great ability that runs honest and true. he just has more ability and a desre to get up on the game. Many good coondogs will slash and drift a cold track and get up where it can be run hot. A great drifter will make you smile from ear to ear because he can get the job done while a lot are still jacking around on the cold track

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Better yet fellas, is a winder that runs with his head up and eyes peeled for movement out front. I once had a male that ran like this and would be running full stide and see the rabbit run 20 yards in front of him and then kick it into high gear. It is a site to behold.....

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FTCH Fillmore's Pepper Sly Hunter the best I had for speed.She was a winder with exceptional hunt,at 5 months old this was extreemly apparent (pups started at 3 months old,as per usual) she was an ALFA dog and other dogs just could not keep up. I was totally impressed with her,but sold her cheap with a deal to get pups off of her as she was bred.Less than 1 year later the buyer(who I hope is reading this ) sold her and made the same deal with the crrent owner, without telling me,as I would have took her back to keep the line going. I'm still pissed ! . The true as you call winders are far and few between. Get any dog deal in writing no matter who you are dealing with. I thought I knew this guy,as I new him my whole life.

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Give me a hound that puts the scent between the front legs and holds onto it with a hard drive , head up but never being far from the line he will beat every hound that get to the outside by days end.

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