Any Clue???

Jr Walker · Post by **Jr Walker** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:04 am

I lost a pup/dog that was going to be a year old on July 28 and it started about 2-3 days ago she started to not eat much and yesterday she wouldnt move out of the way when I was comeing in the pen she just laid there in front of the door so I wormed her good...got to thinking possible to be parvo but was reading up about it and says they trow up was never ANY trow up in the pen...last day she wasnt in so good of a shape that's the day I gave her a good worming ...but main thing is ive got to figur out what it could have been or get some what a clue because I had a nother pup/dog in the pen with her out of my stock and im not wanting to loose her also ive wormed that one too,moved her out of the pen ,and she is acting fine ,but with the luck ive got it will start with her also...Need some help here guys!!!

Jr.

Bunny Runner · Post by **Bunny Runner** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:22 am

Parvo is normally a puppy disease, as it's a DNA virus that affects rapidly developing cells. However, it can affect adult dogs with immune system problems. Was this dog adequately vaccinated? If so, I can't see it being parvo. A trip to the vet would be in order for the other dog now, just to be safe. Older dogs can and do survive parvo with supportive care (fluids, antibiotics, and anti-nausa medications), but quick intervention is CRITICAL. Dogs with parvo die due to severe dehydration for the most part and secondary bacterial infection from enterotoxemia (caused by the virus).
Parvo causes bloody diarrhea (which comes with a horrible, unforgettable smell) and vomiting (vomiting can be not so much due to less food being eaten), severe dehydration (from not drinking and the diarrhea), and lethargy.
Did you notice any bloody diarrhea AND a horrible smell? If not, then I would say it's not parvo.
Sorry, I can't say what it was, but it's always a good idea when you have a dog die unexpectantly or for unknown reasons, to immediately take it to the vet for necropsy (animal autopsy). You must do it immediately or the tissues start to degrade and the results may be tainted, causing a quesionable outcome.

Sorry for your loss.

Oh, did you put the surviving dog in with other dogs???? It's never a good idea to expose other dogs with one that has already been exposed. Isolation is the best thing to do with suspectedly ill dogs.

Randy Phipps · Post by **Randy Phipps** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:46 am

Yes, I agree I would definitely isolate the dog you had with the sick one and take it to the vet. It would be too big of a risk of loosing the rest not to. I would also want to take a strong mixture of bleach or clorox to the area you had the sick one in and give it a while before putting others back in there. I noticed several years ago when a couple of mine got Parvo the diarrhea , strong smell and they stood at the water bucket alot in the first stages. You might also want to have them checked for Coccidia(spelling) I hear it can be ugly. I think they recommend ALBON for it.

Windkist · Post by **Windkist** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:36 am

Bunny Jumper wrote:Yes, I agree I would definitely isolate the dog you had with the sick one and take it to the vet. It would be too big of a risk of loosing the rest not to. I would also want to take a strong mixture of bleach or clorox to the area you had the sick one in and give it a while before putting others back in there. I noticed several years ago when a couple of mine got Parvo the diarrhea , strong smell and they stood at the water bucket alot in the first stages. You might also want to have them checked for Coccidia(spelling) I hear it can be ugly. I think they recommend ALBON for it.

Generally Coccidia doesn't kill BUT, in the heat we've been having and if the dog was lethargic and not drinking it could have been dehydration that caused it to go down fast along with low blood sugar. Was there diarrhea?

Leah

Jr Walker · Post by **Jr Walker** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:26 pm

no diarrhea ,and no horrible smell and no blood either

ive got the other dog moved away from all the rest of them but she is acting fine jumping and running all over the place...but if this one acts any thing close to getting sick ill be going to the vet very soon

Could it been heart worms??? with the time of the year but the wormer I gave her should have killed them...or they had already got to much of her and been to late?

Jr.

pztrailman · Post by **pztrailman** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:43 pm

Is it possible she could have gotten into anti-freeze?

Jr Walker · Post by **Jr Walker** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:21 pm

there isnt any laying around my house but where I run I have sub-divions on 3 sides and on the other I have the city park so there isnt no telling what she could have got into running.

Jr.

ANTHONY KERR · Post by **ANTHONY KERR** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:28 pm

I lost one to kidney failure. He quit eating for about a week and got anemic. He did drink alot of water prior to going down. He had the appearance that he was overheated. I came home from work one day and found him laying in the same place I saw him when I left. The odd thing was he was covered with green flies. It was like he was dead but still breathing. Took him to the vet and they said he had run his last rabbit after a series of tests. He looked like he aged 5 years in a week.

Big River Beagles S · Post by **Big River Beagles S** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:02 pm

I had one get into some insecticide that people put on there yards to kill grubs. He acted the same in alotof ways that your dog did. i took him to the vet the last day before he died and that what the vet diagnosed him with. Sorry to hear of your loss.

beerdrinking bob · Post by **beerdrinking bob** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:55 pm

did you look for a snake bite?

warddog · Post by **warddog** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:29 pm

Any type of rat or mice poison the dog could have gotten into. If no bloody diarrhea or no blood at all from the rear end I think you can rule out parvo and the rat/mice poison. I would think that a pup under a year old wouldn't have kidney failure at that age either. Antifreeze will do it just like that. Of course we are all just guessing.

tnbeagleman · Post by **tnbeagleman** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:38 pm

One of mine had those same symptoms and I took it to the vet today . E-coli bacterial infection in his blood he was going down fast and only got sickly yestterday afternoon. I gave him a vit. b12 shot last night and I think it helped until I could get him to vet H egot two shots and some pills he also had whip worms so between the two things and the heat I think dehydration would have happened real quick.

Chaffin Crank · Post by **Chaffin Crank** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:39 pm

My female was like that a couple of weeks ago and I gave her a shot of penicillin and it cleared right up...Asked the vet what it could have been and he told me that she might have just been sick (some kind of flu bug) but she is fit as a fiddle now back to same ole self...

Bunny Runner · Post by **Bunny Runner** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:10 pm

"Could it been heart worms??? with the time of the year but the wormer I gave her should have killed them...or they had already got to much of her and been to late? "

Don't think it was heart worms (could have been, but doubtful). BTW, you should never give a medication for heart worms with out having a heart worm test done first with a negative results.

Jr Walker · Post by **Jr Walker** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:34 pm

this isnt just for heart worms this is Safe Gaurd Paste works better than some wormer I have gave them took one to the vet a year ago and they said it didnt have ANY worms a dog trader told me about it once and tryed it and it kills the worms and better than any thing ive gave them before

Jr.