Dog shot...owner outraged......flyergroup.com

[Jack]

I shot my neighbors dog. Now for thr rest of the story. His dog tore up 2 hound pups for me. Then he killed a Beagle pup. I told him his dog was mean and would kill others dogs . He killed my little girls small dog and I killed his dog. He told me not to allow my cows to get on him or he would kill them. I told that I felt I had done the proper thing by shooting his dog and not to start something that could get a lot worse. Today 25 years later I baby sit his dogs when he leaves. If my dogs is truly hurting you in some way on your land and you kill him , call me I will come and haul him off, BUT don't kill him because his intentions were..........................

[blunder]

We are talking about a harmless beagle,

And just how is it that you know that, this is a huge assumption on your part. The reality is that the individual Beagle may or may not have been your average Beagle.

I can tell you this,, out here if your dog or any dog, gets out into someones pastures/range and starts running the pounds off their stock, (weight equals dollars) out will come their 22-250 long range preditor control rifle. Doesn't matter if you like it or not.
Does that mean that ranchers out here have some kind of sadistic hate for dogs??? Of course not!!! Fact is every rancher that I know would sooner be cought without his pickuptruck than his Heeler.

tom

[Greg H]

While it is true that we don't know the whole story here, I think there was a laps of judgement on the land owners part. Yes, I agree he was within his rights to use deadly force in defense of his property, but I would have to question his quick trigger in this situation. Sorry to say, this guy has a butt whippin coming. For the life of me I can't put myself in this guys shoes and come up with a reason to kill the dog. If this guy was so concerned for his precious rabbits why would he spray buck shot anywhere close to them. This idea would lead me to believe that at the time the trigger was pulled his rabbit were not in immediate danger. I can picture the pup taking off when this guy stepped out onto his back porch and taking a quick running shot before the pup got off his property. No way he shot at the pup while trying to get at his rabbits. If he did he would have killed his rabbits.

[six shooter]

alabama if i owned a farm in your area you sure as hell won,t be hunting it see the problem of why a lot of hunting is being closed, redneck hunters like you close more than any other reason.

[TC]

The pacific Nortwest has a ZERO tolerence policy for dogs indangering or HARASSING livestock!!! Everybody out there knows this. If your dog is runnin stock the property owner has the right to Use any means nessasary to STOP it All they have to do even is get a pic or video of the offender and the local Athoritys will DISPOSE of the animal NO ? Asked
Now that being said EVERYONE Knows so all you have to do is keep your Animal under control...........
Without knowing the whole story here the property Owner was whithin his Rights! Right or Not
BUT And i say BUT he wouldnt live in the community I was from Very Long!!!!
MOST ranchers, Farmers, and property Owners are Human and will give every Animal the benifit of the doubt. Most will let you know ONCE that your Dog was doin sumthin it wasnt supposed to!! So after that Its YOUR own Fault.
Who is to say this guy didnt let the neigbor know what was goin on.
We dont know the Whole story.......
Short version Here
MAN lets Dog run!! Dog Shot!!!!!!

[hounddog]

And six shooter, it's people like you that give landowers a bad name. Must be from up north.
I tried to stay out of this but now I must vent. I would do the same as swamper. There was no reason to shoot that dog. A quick call would of solved the whole problem. Sometimes when people get a little authority they do some stupid things. Life is all about lessons learned and in this case, we both would have learned. That's the way life works.

BTW redneck has nothing to do with it.

hounddog
Jim Umbarger

[blackdirt beagles]

we got an "animal situation" in the little town i live in. lots of stray cats. there is a handful of people who feed them and let them sleep in their garages but no one actually owns or supervises them. thats all fine and dandy... til they started getting in my garage and dogfood and using my garage as a bathroom. maybe i just should of made sure my garage is always locked down tight or keep my dogfood inside the house... but you know what?? its my property and my garage and if i happen to leave the door open, i shouldnt have to worry about things like that. heck, im on our town board and we have ordinances passed that cover all that!! needless to say, there have been a lot of cat deaths due to lead poisoning here lately. my point to this is, if you hear about me on the news shooting cats in my yard, make sure you check into the whole story and not just what the media says because there is always 2 sides to a story and if reported on the news, i bet that a small cat being shot while eating my dogfood sounds similar in threat to an 8 month old beagle loose at the neighbors.

[sav]

When did we start using the "Law" as a moral sounding board?
I agreee it sounds like the pup had one destination in mind when he/she bolted out of the house, I hope that the owner had been warned of the consequences if his dog was found in the neighbours yard again.

[AlabamaSwamper]

Six Shooter, if you knew me you would think different. If someone shot your daughters f$%#$ pet you would be mad as hell also. Don't give me that bullcrap. I've been without sleep for to long this week and I ain't in no freakin mood to put up with personal attacks. You want to call me a redneck, go ahead. Just keep your arse out of my face.

BTW, I wouldn't need your land to hunt on. Around my hometown, I have more land to hunt than I can cover in 5 years. Due in most part to the fact that I am respected by many landowners. To this date, I cannot think of one private property I've lost permission to hunt unless it was sold or developed. In fact, I am begged every year to join more hunting clubs then you probably know of. Get over yourself.

Yeah, that pissed me off, something I rarely get. ing off now.


Blunder, this beagle according to this story was 8 months old. It was a little girls and family pet. I highly doubt it was some killing maching. The d#$n dog was gone for less than 5 minutes and had 15 00 buckshot blown into him. How freakin hard would it have been to just spray the dern thing with a hose and run it off????????? Now, like I said, if it was attacking someone, then fine, blow it's head off but it was barking at and messing with a rabbit hutch. Blowing 15 00 buckshot through it was not called for.

Greg H, thank you for your post. I agree that the quick trigger finger is what got this idiot on my bad side. Lucky for him, it wasn't my dog.

Now, if this dog was constantly killing his rabbits and he had asked the owner repeatedly to keep it put up then I have to agree with what he did. However, the story didn't say that and I would think it would have been put in the police report and yes, the media would have reported it.

[Greg H]

Another part of this story that bothers me is the dog owner reported hearing 3 or 4 shots while getting into his truck. The pup had 15 (00) buck shot in him. That is more than likely from one shot connecting with the target. What were the other 3 shots for? If it were a standing shot, one would have put the pup down. What were the extra shots at???
More than likely the shooter was a bad shot and was gonna empty the gun at a running target. I doubt the pup was doing laps in this guys back yard while being shot at.

[Randy Phipps]

I'll go so far as to agree; Yes the beagle should have been controlled better, but then again how many kids teach their dogs even simple obedience training? If the dog was truly a problem and the owner had been warned or suspected his dog was leaving his property a chain, kennel or fenced in yard should have been used by the owner to make sure his dog didn't go where it wasn't wanted. My biggest concern with this whole mess is that some jerks will read or hear about this and think its alright to start taking pot shots at dogs in the field because you can do it and the LAW lets you get away with it. I'm sure anyone who has hunted with beagles has had this to happen; Your out hunting on your land or land you have permission to hunt on and the dog or dogs jump a rabbit and the rabbit runs onto posted ground. Would anyone else have a problem with the land owner shooting or taking a shot at his/her dog for trespassing in this situation? Unless, I'm mistaking it sounds like a few feel the landowner or lease holder would have every right . When this has happened and I do try and avoid it, I catch my dogs and quickly remove them from the posted ground, but if someone shot my dog in this situation.....JMO.... There would be a trip to the local proctologist in order to remove my size 13 work boot from a piece of their anatomy .

[blunder]

Blunder, this beagle according to this story was 8 months old

Soooooooooo!!!!!!! That is about as lame a reason to or not to shoot as there is. To Begin with I challenge you to look at a pack of beagles and pick out the ones that are 8 months old. An 8 months old Beagle is perfectly capable of becoming a daddy ya know!!!!

The only reason for even reporting the dogs age could have no other reason than to incite emotions.

tom

[Jr Walker]

What State was this in???



Jr.

[TC]

the dog or dogs jump a rabbit and the rabbit runs onto posted ground. Would anyone else have a problem with the land owner shooting or taking a shot at his/her dog for trespassing in this situation?

YES I would!!!

Something I guess I should have clarified!! LIVE STOCK!!
Cattle, sheep, hogs, Horses, Goats. AND Deer in some areas anything that is raised specifically For the purpose Of Resale or Food, mercantile ECT.
If the dog was Shot Running a rabbit onto Private property without due warning the Landowner would be held Liable and open to Criminal action.
NOW if the landowner was raising Rabbits for resale or Fur ect then he would need the appropriate protections from Predators IE a Fence ect.
One Woman in the Bend Oregon area was Compensated 10X the foreseen value of her Purebred Mastiff when it was shot because the landowner Assumed that because it was so big it was Gonna chase stock!!! Just crossing the pasture don’t cut it.
She was awarded $10,000 replacement value on the Dog. So protections are in place.
I would look into this as a suit in small claims court!!!!

AT the very least beings that discharging a firearm in not illegal in this area a few well placed 20 gauge shots outside his bedroom window 2 or three times a week say around 2 or 3 am should have him placing the 4 sale sign up soon!!!!!!
Unlike what he DID harassment by another has to be Proved!!!!!!!!!!

[six shooter]

alabama i know why you state you would whip or kill the stock owner you can,t cover the price of a 5.00 rabbit, sounds like pure trailer trash, where do you bury your dead;go drink some sweet tea and cool off.