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Moondog Spot
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Post by Moondog Spot »

I say 48 hrs is bullcrap. I would eat it hair and all, it would have to be tough, if one could do 48 straight! :roll:

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Well Chris you just happen to be on here today hun , as for your comment about bashing other people dawgs look YOu gave jared the top handler or pay Jerad to run these dogs and he tells us he bringing the power gonna whip us of course we're gonna pick em to pieces. And if you read my post your find that he didn't get run out in a half hour , I said he looked good would grabb it and go until the second hour he started the cuttin and divin stuff , a big solo shot right after cuttin loose that didnt go nowhere, i thought i was gonna see another Montana then . THis Spade might do well in lager pack I cant wait to see him run . Bottom line is you feed what you like and I'll feed what I like. No bashing here but when someone says theyre gonna spank my dogs well they better show me. and where we run we could see the whole time on top of a tower. I by no means have World beaters but my hounds are gundogs first not the trails.
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Post by carn »

jim j were are you located?

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Post by carn »

moon spot i own the bitch that ran 48 hours the best part of the deal was she had not been run for 3 months before.when we go run dogs we turn in before day light and run until dark that evening.i don't think old spade had ever seen the speed that was put on him.now think about it if your always a front running dog and now you have to run 5 or 6 in the pack your going to get wild.

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Dawgy,
If you beat him count your self lucky.

Me and a couple of guys were talking about your comments about Spade not having any bottom. We decided to make you an offer.

We are going to put up $3000 cash. To back Spade. Running to be held. Two hours west of Louisville. Booneville Indiana. We will run til they quit or day light to dark for as many days as you like. We dont think you have a thing that can handle him.

We know the dog. These are the backers.

Myself Will Mason, Bobby Vest and Jimmy Abshire.

We just ask for a couple of things
1. He passess a physical. We havent been around the dog in a while. Just to make sure he doesnt have heart worms or etc..
2. We can take him and run him 30 days.
3. His owner gives us his blessings.

You can bring 1 dog or 20 we dont care. But your dogs must consistently be within 100 feet for at least half of the running.

This is not to bash you at all. We just know the dog and we will back him.

Will Mason

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Post by dawgydawg67 »

Now your talking my style Will. I was there Tuesday and Wedneday running with Spade. Now to clarify somethings YOU posted. You said within 100 feet......does that mean when he swings out trying to cut the pack that our dogs have to do the same or continue running the line? Is there any bonus when one dog goes through the briars pushing the rabbit while one stands outside waiting for the line? Who's gonna judge whats going on when one starts a big solo shot that no one else will run, until another dog jumps a rabbit then this power hound falls in? You see the hounds we run are bred for bottom end and endurance. Ones that jump their own rabbits, run the lines correctly and run with speed and desire to catch. Now what I saw in those 2 days running with this hound of topic, saw some good things, and saw some bad. Hopefully after an all night run Sunday I'll be able to give you better report. Will, Jimmy and Bobby, a good test would be an AKC LPH trial. You outta go up and try one. But there will probably be more than 20 dogs more like 40-60 dogs. It;s alot of fun. Bob Dawes

Chris
When you talk to Paul about being stuck on one line of dogs, you don't know NOTHING about his hounds. He's got Casey,Birchlake,Indian Hills,Branko and backyard bred dogs. I believe He's NOT stuck on one line.
BUT I am. All my hounds are outta Gene Byers and Bert and Annabelle Yaunkes breeding. Like I said I look for speed, ENDURANCE,HUNT,and overall good GUNDOG qualities. I have found this from these breedings. Bob Dawes
Unless your the lead dog the view never changes

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I have not ran with the dog in a long time. But he can also jump more than his share of rabbits. It wont take a judge to see what goes on, besides Flash Gordan couldnt keep up with him very long in Coal Country. You said after an hour he was thru and posted that he had no bottom and your hounds just flat put it on him.

I say he will pull your dogs "inside out" in Indiana coal country whether it is 1 hour or if it 10 hours.

They can stay on the line but what happens when he starts lapping them. I have seen him come close to doing it in some steppy company while gun hunting. He can at times get nasty but he is a site to behold on a Coal Country running rabbit.

dont know what style hound you run. but i do know that hound has more than enough bottom and will not quit.

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FELLOW BEAGLERS
I HAVE NOT SAW SPADE RUN SINCE HE WAS A PUP, SO I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT HIS RUNNING STYLE ,THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WATCH HIM RUN, I HAVE HEARD HE HAS GOOD SPEED . AS FAR AS I KNOW THESE ARE THE FIRST NEGATIVE COMMENTS I HAVE HEARD... .SINCE I BRED,, SPADE,, AND I HAVE A LITTER MATE SISTER TO HIM, I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO KNOW IF HE CAN BE RAN OUT,WHAT I UNDERSTOOD,,,, WILL ,,TO SAY IS AFTER CHECKING TO SEE IF HE IS HEALTHY AND RAN A FEW DAYS .TURN THE DOGS LOOSE WHEN THEY COME TO THE TRUCK PUT THEM IN THE BOX THE LAST DOG OUT,,, I WOULD THINK WOULD BE THE ONE WITH THE MOST,, GRIT,,, .RUNNING STYLE ,CHECK WORK,OR SPEED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HEART.
KEEP'EM RUNNING
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Post by carn »

is indiana the only place he can run?because he got out footed in ohio all week long and just how do you get by running on 18" dog in trials. a dog that swings out and misses more of the line than he runs by no means is fast .

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Post by dawgydawg67 »

Some people call skirting the line and cutting fast
Unless your the lead dog the view never changes

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Now Boys I'll tell ya I'm not the only man that was there that day running with OL Spade , and as you can see I'm not making this stuff up . For you all that wanna put up or shut up , how about this bring your hounds to Ohio , pack along the shotguns , we'll hunt all day your hounds our hounds , then we'll see who's got the better dawgs . I'm gonna have a pile of Rabbits , what will you have ? Like I said before I'm not a trail man I'm a hunter/killer and now that you all think the power hound is sick ,heart worms , needs thirty days of run time, needs to be in indiana Coal country to run , just makes it clear too me , unbelivers; I have nothing to prove , this all stems From one man says he's gonna whip our dogs bringing these dawgs of CHris's up here that dont get much done . Look he never Got LuceyGranded Out every time he went to the trials she didnt have any runnin and , Monanta did stay long , Jerad even called chris Friday talk to him saying I thought this dog was fast Jerads Radar dog was yankin Spades ChainTo top it off Bobbys dogs was going through the briars while both radar and spade stood and watched and then fell in. Any time you all wanna run come up here and will turn loose we aint gotta put our trucks up wives, girlfiends, houses, money , just run . You know if you actually go in and see what the dogs are doing instead of sittin on the tail gate you might be suprised at what you see.
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Post by carn »

pack your lunch because were going to hunt all day long.

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I'LL SEE YOUR $3000 AND RAISE IT ANOTHER $3000 I GOT A BETTLE HOUND THAT IS SO FAST THAT SHE NOT ONLY LAPS THE OTHER HOUND BUT RUNS IN FRONT OF THE RABBIT NOW THATS FAST.THE OTHER DAY I WAS GUNNING HER WHEN SHE CAME BY SHE HAD ONE RABBIT HANGING OUT THE RIGHT SIDE OF HER MOUTH ONE ON THE LEFT AND CHASING THE THIRD. NO GUN NEEDED. 48 HOURS RUNNING NOW THAT AIN'T NOTHIN MY BITCH HAS BEEN GONE FOR WEEKS AT A TIME.

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Post by MasonsBeagles »

No cop outs here. I am saying we will back the hound. We will bring the hound down to his home turf. Seeing as how your hounds are just destroying him on there home turf. Havent been around the hound in a long time. Just check him out to make sure he is sound. Run him a little just to make sure he has a little wind. Cut them loose.

Spade has proven himself in KY, Indiana and know Oaklahoma. The question is can those power hounds you all are destroying him with, can they run anywhere besides OHIO?

I say he will not only drag them same hounds all over SW Indiana that he will outlast them. Plain and simple. You will see in a few hours of running down there that it is a different world and you will find out just what kind of hounds you are feeding.

There is no question in our eyes about his grit and guts. If the pot is not rich enough just let us know. Ive had several volunteers that will pitch in more.

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Post by flyboyc141 »

WHY HAS SUCH A GREAT HOUND HAD MORE THAN ONE OWNER AROUND HERE IF WE GET ONE LIKE THAT HE STAYS HERE.DO YOU FELLOWS HAVE ANY PUPS OUT OF HIM AND YOUR BEST FEMALE FORSALE I UNDERSTAND THAT HE HAS BEEN TRIALED IN COAL COUNTRY BEFORE HOW AND THE WORLD DID HE GET BEAT MUST HAVE BEEN CHEATED.

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