Looking 4 Info Red/white Beagle from Leclede Illinois area

New York Hillbilly · Post by **New York Hillbilly** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:16 am

The more I look at that hound the more it is driving me crazy. I will see if my wife will help me tomorrow and get a picture of my Blazer on this here web site and you tell me if it does not look like my hound.

NYH

trackman · Post by **trackman** » Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:24 pm

NYHillbilly
I would really love to see a pic of Blazer if you can't get it up here maybe you could email it to me direct?
As for Merle being suspended from the AKC that would not really bother me except that it says specifically about improper identification, which is what I am lacking right now ID on this dog basically. I called him again yesterday and today. Still no calls wish the man would just call and say hey.......sorry dog has no papers at least that. He bawl is high pitched and short, and his performance on rabbits not so good, although I am still working with him.
Bev, the color you see is white not gray, I pretty much feel the dog is the age Merle said he was, vet told me on his first visit that he was young. I think Merle was honest about that. I just don't get it, if Merle would just call back and tell me something I could get on with this and figure out what to do about it.
HAPPY FOURTH

BJK · Post by **BJK** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 7:42 am

I mailed you my number. Call me, I may have some info for you.

Nate

Post by **Bev** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 8:52 am

Mike, Merle's an alright guy in my opinion, a dog is usually what he says it is or he'll make it right, but he's slower than molasses sometimes about stuff and I tell him that all the time. The identification infraction he had with AKC was basically that he couldn't tell them who owned a dog he'd sold 5 years earlier during an inspection at his place. He didn't keep records of sold pups as far back as they wanted. They got kinda huffy with him and if you know Merle........well, he escorted them off his property, and told them to stick their registry where the sun doesn't shine. He told them that for the money he pays, they work for him and not the other way around. That was his feeling about it and he has a point. Since then, he's never felt like he couldn't openly and easily sell a dog without AKC papers, so I'm sure you'll get your answer from him.

I know he won't mind me putting this explanation on the board because he has printed it in the magazine. He's not hiding anything about that. I hope my comments didn't insinuate differently.

trackman · Post by **trackman** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 9:40 am

Bev,
I am hoping you are right. Truth be told I had the feeling that I could trust him when I first spoke to him, if I had not thought that I would not have agreed to purchase this dog sight unseen. My problem now is not a personal one with him per se, just his performance as far as responding to my phone calls and injuiries. I am not an unreasonable person, I am more than willing to talk, but I can't seem to get the man to pick up a phone. I know he has a cell so I can't even take being out of town for an excuse. All it would take is one phone call and some explanations to sort this thing out. Then I could figure out what to do, but I hate being on hold. If I get papers for the dog great! If I don't I admit I won't be happy, but at least I can possibly find out his background and try to get him papered with NKC. I appreciate the fact that you are sticking up for Merle and please understand I am not badmouthing him in anyway. I am just stating the facts and hoping that if I do long enough and loud enough, he may get around to picking up a phone. I leave one message a day on his machine, and this board to me is a great way for him to hear me by word of mouth, I don't live anywhere near him but I am sure there are people who come to this board who either do or will see him somewhere. I just want him to know I willnot give up until I get either what I was promised in the first place, or an explanation why I can't.

Mike

Post by **Bev** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 9:59 am

I hear ya.

Lance · Post by **Lance** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 6:48 pm

I hope you didn't spend allot of cash on this dog, and I'm sure you'll learn a lesson. It's one that most dog people learn sooner or later. Never buy running dogs from dog jockeys! Do you really think someone is going to sell you a good dog? Heck no! and if it is a good one you'll usually pay way more than it's really worth. You're definitely not the first this has ever happened to and wont be the last. Stick to buying pups or raising your own. That way you know everything about the dog and can usually at least get your money back out of it. Buying a dog site un seen is definitely a NoNo! Man, I hope you don't have more money than sense. Nine times out of ten you'll get burned bad! I truly hope you get your papers on the dog and it's a shame things like this happen. The internet is a good place to trash someone's name but he's got your money and you're not saying anything that he probably hasn't heard before. Good luck!

Post by **Bev** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 7:08 pm

Mike, I talked to Merle a few minutes ago, he said the dog is not AKC registered and he was under the impression that you understood, but that the dog is from AKC stock as he told you. He can get you the pedigree so you'll know what you have. (One of the parent's owners never registered his hound.) He has half the pedigree for you and is waiting on the other half. He said something about the bottom of the pedigree being from Marshal Conway's line. I imagine that's where the Bramlett comes in. About all of Marshal's hounds are red/white. If he were just trying to pull one over on you, he'd have just made up the other part of the pedigree. He will send it to you complete as soon as he can get ahold of the other parent of your dog's owner.

You can e-mail me for more info if you'd like.

trackman · Post by **trackman** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 8:37 pm

Mike, I talked to Merle a few minutes ago, he said the dog is not AKC registered and he was under the impression that you understood

Bev, Never understood that, but ok fine, that is much better than the nothing I have gotten so far. Thanks for getting to him for me. I will be emailing you for the information. I still don't understand why he does not call me though. What does he think? That I will not speak to him? I just can't believe I had to keep posting on this board for days to get a response and then I get it third person. Why? Well this is much better than what I had before and I really do appreciate it Bev. Thanks so much. If Merle does come through I will post it on the rest of the boards and let every one know what he has done to make it right. Thanks again!!!

trackman · Post by **trackman** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 8:45 pm

It's one that most dog people learn sooner or later. Never buy running dogs from dog jockeys!

Actually Lance, Merle is not a dog jockey, he has been breeding and selling dogs for a long time, so I had no reason to think this would happen. Bev says the pedigree is forth coming and I hope she is right, as far as the papers go there are none, but as long as I have a history I can have him NKC registered which is fine by me.

Post by **Bev** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 10:05 pm

Mike, Merle doesn't have a computer and I hate talking about him without his knowing it, but I really don't think he's trying to shaft you. (I explained the situation in my e-mail to you). I think he was just trying to find you the kind of dog you were looking for. He has been out of the AKC program for so long now, I think he just assumes everyone knows.

Merle places an ad in the magazine every month - suppose to be a new ad each month, but he forgets to get new copy to me. I have to pester him to change his ad, lol! Sometimes months go by but he'll eventually sit down and write 3 or 4 ads at once and he always makes good on his bill. That kinda stuff drives most folks crazy. He's just one of those guys either you can deal with it or you can't. I know how he is so I just accept him warts and all. Punctual? Nope - definitely not his forté, but he's always been truthful with me and he knows dogs.

trackman · Post by **trackman** » Sat Jul 05, 2003 10:54 pm

Bev,
Believe me you I hope you are right! Will wait and see........Let me know if you finally get Sammy, I wonder how he has been doing, Merle's had him a while now. Remember he is overdue for shots now.
Thanks again,
Mike