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Problems with Training Collar
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:29 pm
by Jonathan Sims
I own a 3-Dog G2 set. I have some hard headed beagles. I want them to hunt fairly close to me, they want to hunt wherever they want. They know basic commands. Come, sit. I have a real problem calling them to me. I hate to use the E-collar. I set it on #1, the lowest setting available. I will hold the button in for about 2 seconds. Whatever dog I shock always yelps and, my other dogs think the shocked dog has just jumped a rabbit. So the other dogs go running to the dog I just corrected. This has got to be very confusing to the dogs. I am afraid my dogs are going to quit packing up. But, I want my dogs to hunt where that I want them to hunt. What do you guys think the best route is to take? Should I just be happy they are hunting, and let them hunt where they want? I am just scared I am either going to make them shy or they will quit packing when they hear a dog bark, or they will jump a deer when they are out of my sight and leave the country.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:04 pm
by keith2210
i would just nick them. just push the button and let it go. dont hold it. i dont worry if mine are out of site. they probably wont jump many rabbits right under your feet. and if they jump a deer and take off on it you can teach them a lesson with those collars. they have a 1 mile range(maybe more depending on your model) so if they take a deer just turn that thing up to level 6 and shock them until the unit shuts off. it will sound real bad. dogs will make all kinds of noises but it will save you alot of headaches in the future. dont be afraid to use those collars. but dont over use them. they are a TOOL....good luck...keith
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:01 am
by coolbrze
keith2210 wrote:i would just nick them. just push the button and let it go. dont hold it. i dont worry if mine are out of site. they probably wont jump many rabbits right under your feet. and if they jump a deer and take off on it you can teach them a lesson with those collars. they have a 1 mile range(maybe more depending on your model) so if they take a deer just turn that thing up to level 6 and shock them until the unit shuts off. it will sound real bad. dogs will make all kinds of noises but it will save you alot of headaches in the future. dont be afraid to use those collars. but dont over use them. they are a TOOL....good luck...keith
Keith gave you some good advice. I was in the same situation several years ago. Be patient w/ the dogs. Don't hold the button down, just shock for a split sec., not two sec.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:08 pm
by slick 50
HUNT THEM BY THIER SELF A COUPLE TIMES WITH THE COLLAR, USE IT, ONCE THEY FIND OUT WHAT ITS ABOUT, THIER NEW TO IT, HARD TO TEACH 3 DOGS THE SAME THING AT ONE TIME.AFTER A COUPLE TIMES, A SMART ONE WILL ONLY NEED TONED.TILL THEY FORGET, AND JUST GIVE THEM A REFRESHMENT, MY FAVORITE DEVICE
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:28 am
by ANTHONY KERR
The first few times use the tone before the nick, Call here hold the tone a few seconds then nick. That lets them know they have a choice to make or something bad will happen. It brings new meaning to the here command. You can do this with a check chord in the yard if you want them to get the idea before they go afield. I have worked on young and old dogs like this and some need more than others,but it seems to work.
I think I read it in the American Beagler a few years ago. While I was out running one day I had a truck start backing up with a warning beeper and every dog came back to check in.
Anthony
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:12 pm
by Northwind Kennel
The dogs need to be conditioned individually in the yard before you use it in the field. Just to keep it basic, teach the dog come, sit etc... with a rope and choke chain while their wearing the collar. When you call them use the tone while you’re reeling them in with the lead. Once their responding to that (in the yard with no distractions), start nicking or holding the button down until they start coming then release the button. Always reward effort with praise. If they hang up on the way to you (sniff the ground, veer off etc...) correct with the collar and show them the way out of the correction by using the lead and collar together again.
If the dog is normally good on a one, do some on 2, 3 etc... so that later on in the field if you need to go up in intensity, the dog has had that correction before in a controlled situation and knows how to respond properly.
If their properly conditioned to the collar, any other dogs that hear the other collar beeping will head back also.
Chris Hendra