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Coccidia???

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:12 pm
by IndyBeagler
Can anyone tell me what Coccidia looks like?

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:53 pm
by FrancoMo1678
pups will lose energy, start looking hollow , quit eating , have loose stool with mucas , maybe some blood . If you do not catch it quick they will become dehydrated

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:57 pm
by Chuck Terry
The coccidia themselves are single-celled organisms that you need a microscope to see. The effects are primarily digestive upsets similar to those caused by giardia or eating something that does not agree with them (loose, greasy, stools that may have mucus and in severe cases, blood). This can lead to loss of weight and a unthrifty appearance like when a dog has a heavy infestation of worms.

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:48 pm
by IndyBeagler
I just bout a couple of males this week1 18 weeks old and the other 14 months old from a well respected breeder here in Indiana this week and when I got them home they both did the ole #2 and one of them was really runny with a blackish gray color, it had a very small red spot in it kind of like blood but it was smaller than the tip of a Q tip and looked maybe like a little mucus as well, however this dogs stoole is getting a little more solid and more of a normal color now. The other dogs stoole was about the same but not as bad now and his is starting to look a little more normal as well. Has anyone experienced anything like this before? I have kept hounds regulary since 1992, I have never seen this before and I have always kept the hounds wormed, except for once in 1992 or 93 I have never had a problem with worms and I cant even remember what the stoole of that hound looked like or symtoms of the hound other that seeing the long flat worms. Does this sound like a worm issue or maybe something else?

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:04 am
by Chuck Terry
The stress of the move and change in diet could have triggered coccidiosis, worms, or just upset stomach. If they were mine, I would give them a dose of broad-spectrum wormer such as Drontal Plus. I would also give them Albon, Corid, or Metronidazole for a few days in case there is a single cell parasite issue. I would do this not only for the benefit of the new ones but your other hounds as well. Best wishes!

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:34 am
by IndyBeagler
Thanks for the info Chuck I will give that a try!

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:45 pm
by S.R.Patch
One other thing I have found to aid in recovery :idea: these little bugs once shed, thrive in damp dark areas like the corners of kennels and doghouses. I dust the doghouse and puppy kennel with absorber type granules of oil dry or kitty liter. The bugs have to have dampness to survive outside the host.
Feeding dry kibble to puppies instead of the wet or soaked feed will encourage them to drink more of the treated albon/water you supply... ;)

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:32 pm
by gap
I had a pup that had it never showed no signs of weekness , it ate alot ,drunk plenty of water,was real energetic . the only problem she looked real puny. Took her to the vet and they treated it with albon.

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:53 pm
by PREACHERS,KENNEL
albon is the thing with coccidiousis ,,about 5 days in a row knock it right out!~

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:49 pm
by sanfordssj
Just wanted to bring this to the top...I have three pups starting to show signs of it, and a buddy has a pup coming down with it too. Its prime season for this crap!

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:55 am
by TheLittleBlackBook
IndyBeagler wrote:I just bout a couple of males this week1 18 weeks old and the other 14 months old from a well respected breeder here in Indiana this week and when I got them home they both did the ole #2 and one of them was really runny with a blackish gray color, it had a very small red spot in it kind of like blood but it was smaller than the tip of a Q tip and looked maybe like a little mucus as well, however this dogs stoole is getting a little more solid and more of a normal color now. The other dogs stoole was about the same but not as bad now and his is starting to look a little more normal as well. Has anyone experienced anything like this before? I have kept hounds regulary since 1992, I have never seen this before and I have always kept the hounds wormed, except for once in 1992 or 93 I have never had a problem with worms and I cant even remember what the stoole of that hound looked like or symtoms of the hound other that seeing the long flat worms. Does this sound like a worm issue or maybe something else?

The fact that you got your pups from a "well-respected breeder" increases the odds of getting coccidia, as the more dogs anyone keeps and feeds, the more likely that the kennel has coccidia. The thing about coccidia is the drugs that treat it (Albon, Corid, etc.) do not actually kill the protozoan parasite, they just stop it from replication. Because coccidia is shed in the feces, and because it is microscopic, and because it can be present in a host (especially an adult) without any symptoms whatsoever, it is virtually impossible to erradicate in any kennel situation. Like the perpetual-reality of dealing with worms, coccida is simply a fact a person breeding and raising dogs has to get used to.

Most breeders I know, who are on top of things, begin their coccidia treatment with the bitch ... before she even has her pups ... by making sure her milk is clean, for coccidia can be transmitted via the milk to the freshly-born pups as well as after they're weaned. This is why so many newborn pups that "seem healthy" suddenly begin to fade after drinking a couple days' worth of milk: the received transmitted coccidia/bacteria from the mother's milk. Thus prevention should begin with mama's milk before the pups even drink it. The treatment then continues, after the pups are weaned, by (as mentioned) treating the water from which the pups drink and/or by treating the pups themselves with TMZ/Flagyl. Same as you should continuously treat for worms.

A lot of pups get lost needlessly due to a lack of knowledge of just how prevalent coccidia really is. Like worms, coccida is a problem for which all serious breeders should be prepared to handle at all times during the development of their pups.



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Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:09 pm
by madcatter

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:31 am
by Farmerwells
can I treat the water in the puppy pen with Corid, if so how much Corid in how much water and for how long?

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:34 pm
by SIHUNTER
Farmerwells wrote:can I treat the water in the puppy pen with Corid, if so how much Corid in how much water and for how long?


I have a 13 month old started dog who came up with Coccidia, and I've been treating her drinking water with one ounce Corid per gallon of water and it's done well. I'm also giving it to a five month old as a preventive. :thumbsup:

Re: Coccidia???

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:36 pm
by Ky. Hunter
I have a 13 month old started dog who came up with Coccidia, and I've been treating her drinking water with one ounce Corid per gallon of water and it's done well. I'm also giving it to a five month old as a preventive.
SIHUNTER,
What I do about every 2--3 months is mix up some water and Corid(1 oz per gallon ) and give it to my dogs for a week for a preventive also. The Corid doesn't cost that much so I don't mind doing it that often.