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Worming

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:22 pm
by winchester73
I am new to rabbit hunting, but have had dogs all my life. I have always wormed with Hartz wormer in all my dogs. Just wandering if beagle owners prefer a different wormer and if so how much and how often to worm? Thanks to all for any replies.

Re: Worming

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:51 pm
by Cliff n.
welcome...

1)Wormer - Safe-Guard (fenbendazole) - i like-it,,1cc per 5lbs
2)wormer- Panacur (fenbendazole)- Great product- 1cc per 5lbs

both come in liquid or paste. i prefer liquid ringht in the mouth.

heartworm- ivomec liquid 1/10cc per 10lbs in mouth.

Re: Worming

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:28 pm
by LR Patch
In my opion there is a lot in fact most are better than Hartzs wormers , the 1's listed ( I like Safey Guard ) Valbasin is a good 1 , also and I also like worm out that I get from Vet-N-Direct in AU.

Re: Worming

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:11 am
by TheLittleBlackBook
winchester73 wrote:I am new to rabbit hunting, but have had dogs all my life. I have always wormed with Hartz wormer in all my dogs. Just wandering if beagle owners prefer a different wormer and if so how much and how often to worm? Thanks to all for any replies.

Most of your store-bought wormers are a waste of money as they are watered-down.

For example, the active ingredient in most pet wormers is pyrantel pamoate, but the concentration which they have it at in over-the-counter doggie drugs is 5 mg/ml. You can get the same drug (pyrantel pamoate) labeled for other animals (or even humans) ... at TEN TIMES the concentration (50 mg/ml) ... which means you use less and it lasts longer. For example, the product Nemex II is essentially the same as Hartz, and it costs you about $90 for a quart. Yet it is only a 5 mg/ml suspension, whereas you can buy a quart of generic pyrantel (at a 50 mg/ml concentration) for about $30 ... and it's 10x stronger ... so you only use 1/10th as much.

In other words, you'd have to buy 10 quarts of Nemex II (at over $900) ... to buy what $30 would get you buying generic ... if you stopped going to the pet store for your dog products and started shopping online for their generic equivalents.

A final comment is Valbazen and Panacur are NOT your best choices for routine wormings ... as they are expensive, very weak as drugs, and thereby require heavy dosing. The most effective (and cost-effective) wormers to use on a regular basis are generic ivermectin and generic pyrantel pamoate. Valbazen and Panacur should only be used rarely, and then they need to be dosed correctly to work (which has not been listed correctly here). The proper dosing of these drugs is twice daily, for 3 days in a row. This involves a lot of product, and is very inconvenient to do, compared to the dosage/frequency of ivermectin and pyrantel pamoate, which only need to be used once to get the job done, not 6 times in 3 days.

Where Panacur and Valbazen come in handy is for a confirmed case of whipworm, which ivermectin and pyrantel pamoate do not cover.

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Re: Worming

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:16 am
by Twin Bridge Kennels
What is the name of a generic pyrantel that you would recomend. Thanks

Re: Worming

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:24 pm
by Twin Bridge Kennels
I have some worm medicine that is 50mg Pyrantel Pamoate/mL how do I cut this to give to my dogs. Thanks

Re: Worming

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:41 pm
by Twin Bridge Kennels
doesn't anyone know how to do this???????????????????????????????????????????????????

Re: Worming

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:18 am
by Alabama John
Buy you an tube of Equimax horse wormer and give one click to a regular size beagle. I cut a piece of bread in 4 pieces and put one click in each piece and throw them, one to each dog. Gets ALL worms and keeps off fleas and ticks too.
I know several men that have over 25 dogs at a time and they do just as I do. They have a cheap tube and a more expensive tube, WE all use the more expensive one. Its cheap compared to other wormers as you gat so many wormings from a tube.

Only use in insect season, not in cold weather.

Re: Worming

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:45 am
by Cliff n.
alabama john::: do you give the Equimax wormer 1 day a month? or 3 days in a row..or another routine.thanks i will try it...

i also will keep on using my panacur and safe guard on other occasion..i never heard of six days in a row except for Giardia
im not sure how to spell-it.lol

50mg Pyrantel Pamoate/ml is 1cc/ml for 10lbs
.5cc for 5lbs

Re: Worming

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:28 am
by Alabama John
Cliff

I only give once a month and only in hot weather, blood sucking insect months. Once it gets cool enough to not have blood sucking insects I quit giving anything. Start back up when first blood sucker is seen.

I wouldn't give anything else while using this for fear of overdosing. This one shot deal gets every worm, meaning tapes, heart worms, and all. There's no need to worm a dog every month.Oh maybe if your pen was infested, but then you should treat the pen and then continue with the dogs.
Too much worming weakens a dog.

Only exception is if I buy a dog, I give a click regardless of the weather. Cleans any worms out.

Re: Worming

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:46 pm
by duckbuster38401
Thanks for the Info!