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timberdoodle · Post by **timberdoodle** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:18 pm

Try droncit or better yet drontal for tapes Need to get from a vet

Praziquantel is the main ingredient in any effective tape worm medicine.

Safeguard has been working for me but is only effective on two kinds of tape, drontal is efective on 4.

Ivermectin is not effective on tape.

Check the dog for flea infestation and try Drontal for the dog. Expensive but the best wormer on the current market.

This was supposed to be under your post but I screwed up.....Duh

Larry G · Post by **Larry G** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:15 am

Praziquantel is the main ingredient in any effective tape worm medicine.

Equimax has it but you will be giving Ivomec too which some people say is a good wormer that may kill your dog. There was a post on another board where a vet told some man he probably killed his by too much Ivomec or wrong kind of Ivomec. I use Equi and haven't killed any yet but I doubt that a vet would do it or suggest it. Who knows I may be slowly killing the dogs. I don't plan on buying any more of it because I don't have many dogs to treat now.

There is another wormer a lot of people use that has arecoline hydrobromide (no more tapes and other trade names) but the word is that it does not do the job as well.

People might think a dog has tapes when it doesn't. If it has mature tapes and you give a good dose of the right medicine, you should see the tapes in the stool. If you don't then there may be something else causing the dog to do poorly.[/quote]

Huntin54 · Post by **Huntin54** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:54 pm

So i guess i have to take him to the vet to make sure he definately has them.

Or can i just call the vet and they will give the pills to me.

Let me know what you think i should do.

timberdoodle · Post by **timberdoodle** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:43 pm

It depends on the relationship you have with your vet. That is up to the vet and you. Chances are you will not speak to the vet when you call. A receptionist will be glad to make an appointment for you and the dog but she probably cannot make the call to just give you the wormer.

Are you sure you are dealing with tapes? That is where the expertise of a vet comes in The stool sample is put in liquid and examined under a microscope and the eggs/larvae are identified.

Tapes are fairly common and kept in check not all that detrimental to your dog but why feed them.

I'm suprised that SafeGuard is not working for you. It has worked very well for me except with my inside dogs who raid the cats litter box and the tape worm comes from that. My kenneled dogs are worm free moreso than the inside pets.

Best of luck.

Huntin54 · Post by **Huntin54** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:29 pm

Im not positive its tapes i haven't seen them in his poop for a while. I'm going to give him Safeguard and see if he poops any worms out.

It might be something else i'll keep an eye on him closely.

Thanks,
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oakhill · Post by **oakhill** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:28 pm

Tapeworms live in the small intestines. The body is composed of segments that contain the egg packets. These segments are what you would see in the dogs poop. Sort of looks like rice. Tapeworms are not like other worms as they don't cause alot of problems for dogs but are highly contagious. You probably wouldn't even know your dog had tapes until these segments mature and break off and passed in the feces.
Too get ride of tapes you need to kill the worm head that is attached in the intestine. Praziquantel is the ingredient that will kill allllllll tapes. Some tape wormers contain fenbendazole(panacur), espisprantel, and mebendazole that kill only two kinds of tapes. When the worm is killed and the head breaks off I have heard that it is digested. But not sure if that is correct. I have never see the head after worming hounds.

Huntin54 · Post by **Huntin54** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:19 pm

Oakhill thanks for the info. What do you worm your dogs with???

oakhill · Post by **oakhill** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:36 pm

Drontal Plus at least twice a year. This kills all worms... hookworms, whipworms, round worms, tapeworms.

I use pyrental pamoate in between. This takes care of hooks, round and pin worms. I use ivomec monthly for heart worms

Huntin54 · Post by **Huntin54** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:40 am

Ok thanks Oakhill.

oakhill · Post by **oakhill** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:24 am

I have the worlds best vet. I get a bottle of Drontal plus with 60 pills which each pill worms a 30 lb dog for $330. That is $5.50 a pill. On some of my hounds I can worm two with just one pill. That makes it $2.75 to worm a hound for all tapes and all worms. You can't get it any cheaper than that anywhere and it is not the generic tape wormer. Drontal Plus is made by Bayer.