what supplements to use?

full circle kennel · Post by **full circle kennel** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:06 pm

has anyone had any luck supplimenting their dogs food for peak performance. i have heard people mention red cell builder, vitamin tabs, going to a higher performance dog food ect. other than conditioning, what has anyone had the best luck supplementing. i am looking to give my hounds an edge in trialing where late round endurance is a must. also it would be nice to keep the snap in them for those all day hard gun hunts. any advice or experiances appreciated.

crewchf · Post by **crewchf** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:19 pm

This is where Eukanuba Premium Performance kicks on in!!!!!!!!!!! My bunch LOVE IT!!!! A little raw Steak don't hurt either!!!!!

Crew Chief

full circle kennel · Post by **full circle kennel** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:16 pm

i was looking around on the web and found this site. i am going to compare these supplements vs. cost of the pricier dog foods. problem is i have tried most foods out there.these are just a few. no raw meat yet though. euk 30/20/pro plan 30/20 and buckeye 30/20 yet i can still seem to see the hounds wearing down a little. i'm curious if i can keep the stamina from tailgate drop to tailgate close. btw, if anyone has had any neg results from this stuff or anything else please post..!

http://www.k9power.com/k9_super_fuel.php

Beagled1 · Post by **Beagled1** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:46 pm

crewchf wrote:This is where Eukanuba Premium Performance kicks on in!!!!!!!!!!! My bunch LOVE IT!!!! A little raw Steak don't hurt either!!!!!

Crew Chief

You took the words right out of my mouth

When we run them hard its either Euk Perfomance or Small Breed Puppy and all year round they're supplemented with raw meat/raw meaty bones. The high fat meats such as ground hamburger and chicken hearts do wonders for their stamina. Otherwise I don't use any supplements, save for olive oil and raw egg yolks once or twice a week.

Huntin54 · Post by **Huntin54** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:51 pm

I'm using Buckeye 30/20 now and it seem to be working good for me. I haven't really had the chance to run them all day though. The old guys i hunt with are usally worn out around 2 o' clock or so.

I run my dogs alot and thats the only buckeye formula i can feed them this time of year because i run them about 3-4 hours everyday after school. It seems to keep the weight on them.

I have Canine Red Cell i've only used it a handful of times so far. I think it gave them a little more energy on the days i gave it to them.

I've tried the other supplements and never found anything that really works like the bottle says its supposed too. I just started feeding them Raw meat every once in a while. It seems to give them a little boost of energy.

crewchf · Post by **crewchf** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:50 pm

Huntin54,, Mrs Crew Chief just spit coffee all over my keyboard over that OLD GUY thing,, heck we're still just kids at heart (59)...

Beagled1,, you gotta see my 4 older ones trying to get into my baby's (Maggie Blue's) crate when we let em out to play in the living room at night!!! She's on the Euk small breed puppy and they fight over who's gettin in her crate to get at it first!!! It's histericle to watch...

Crew Chief

Huntin54 · Post by **Huntin54** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:57 pm

LOL,
Sorry about that crewchf. What are ya doing drinking coffee so late at night??

Beagled1 · Post by **Beagled1** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:33 am

Huntin54 wrote: I've tried the other supplements and never found anything that really works like the bottle says its supposed too. I just started feeding them Raw meat every once in a while. It seems to give them a little boost of energy.

Keep up with the raw meat! Especially very fatty cuts. Its a common misconception that carbs will give a dog stamina and endurance - thats only true to an extent. FAT is what actually gives dogs quality energy & stamina. Then the carbs "kick in" and provide that extra boost.

Crewchf ... I know what you mean about the Eukanuba puppy food! We're feeding their small breed puppy formula to a lactating bitch, an older pup and a litter of seven pups. Let me tell you, the other dogs go WILD when I open the bin and they smell this food

They wake up from near comatose sleeping to try and raid the bin! I tried opening the food bin with the adult formula lamb and rice food ... no one so much as batted an eye, lol.

crewchf · Post by **crewchf** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:04 am

Huntin54,,, 10 years ago Me and Mrs Crew Chief would be a sucking down Bourbon and Cokes at that hour!!!!!!!! Let me give ya some ADVICE,,,, don't go down that road!!!!!!!!!!!!

Crew Chief

PS Oh ya,,, did you get your new transmitter on a DAD GUM LANYARD yet??????? And hook it to your vest!!!

Huntin54 · Post by **Huntin54** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:04 pm

Dang sounds like you were having fun in ur younger days.

Nah i never got it hooked to a lanyard yet. I thought LCS sent it with a holster because all there adds say free shipping and holster. I never got it. So whenever i find a place to buy one i'll hook a lanyard to it.

full circle kennel · Post by **full circle kennel** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:35 pm

thanks for the advice guys. i'm going to give that a try. anyone have any worm issues by feeding raw meats?

crewchf · Post by **crewchf** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:45 am

No,,, but the way its a goin I'm not so sure we can trust raw veggies any more!!!! Maybe hounds can't get e-coli???????

Crew Chief

full circle kennel · Post by **full circle kennel** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:17 am

hounds can get e-coli just as humans do. i did a little research in my vet manual yesterday and found that it IS a possibility for them to contract a few differant types of problems from uncooked meats especially pork. i dont want to contradict anyone on this. just saying i read the info. i will try the meat cooked and see what happens. no vegies though, onoins and spinach are def out.

Beagled1 · Post by **Beagled1** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:18 pm

full circle kennel wrote:thanks for the advice guys. i'm going to give that a try. anyone have any worm issues by feeding raw meats?

The only raw meat I wouldn't feed anymore is pork. Some of the hounds handle it well, but others couldn't digest it, and I'd see chunks of bone in the stool ... never saw that with any other type of bone, and I've given hard ones such as lamb & beef necks. A few years back, I also had a pup who ate quite a bit of raw ground pork and had the WORST roundworm infestation that took several wormings to get rid of. Don't know if the two were connected, but won't chance it by feeding pork anymore

burbba · Post by **burbba** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:39 pm

I've started using "Pet Tabs". they are a vitamin tablet purchased at any pet store. I've noticed a difference in mine. I usually give it 2-3 times a week. Especially the day before and the day of a hard run.

They can be expensive, but i've noticed a difference. I think I paid 25.00 for 180 tablets.

Only drawback i've seen... a lil extra from the rear end...